Once a Flat Plane Truth is realized, one realizes it is All a Great Lie. All of it.
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At cluesforum.info, they have been uncovering more “inconvenient truths” for NASA as to the living Astro-nots, who alleged we’re killed in the alleged space shuttle Challenger disaster but are now found to be happily gainfully employed in colleges and jobs related to NAZIA. (recent thread here) . Credit also to Darell Foss at OpOd news for this find. (Source)
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Pick your favorite photoshop..err shot, provided by NASA Image of what the Challenger explosion in space looked like. They cannot both be a picture of the exact same event. (also, was it not a clear blue sky day?)
http://ethics.wikia.com/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_Disaster
http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2013/01/space_shuttle_challenger_disas.html
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update 7/29/15 Good article on astro-not’s birth records and backgrounds
The Space Shuttle Challenger disaster occurred on January 28, 1986, when the NASA Space Shuttle orbiter Challenger (OV-099) (mission STS-51-L) broke apart 73 seconds into its flight, leading to the deaths of its seven crew members, which included five NASA astronauts and two payload specialists. The spacecraft disintegrated over the Atlantic Ocean, off the coast of Cape Canaveral, Florida at 11:38 EST (16:38 UTC).
Approximately 17 percent of Americans witnessed the launch live because of the presence of Payload Specialist Christa McAuliffe, who would have been the first teacher in space. Media coverage of the accident was extensive: one study reported that 85 percent of Americans surveyed had heard the news within an hour of the accident.
Some experts believe most if not all of the crew were alive and possibly conscious during the entire descent until impact with the ocean.
Thereafter, recovery efforts were managed by a Search, Recovery, and Reconstruction team; its aim was to salvage debris that would help in determining the cause of the accident. Sonar, divers, remotely operated submersibles and manned submersibles were all used during the search, which covered an area of 480 nautical miles (890 km), and took place at depths of up to 370 meters (1,210 ft). On March 7, divers from the USS Preserver identified what might be the crew compartment on the ocean floor.[35][36] The finding, along with discovery of the remains of all seven crew members, was confirmed the next day and on March 9, NASA announced the finding to the press.[37
The remains of the crew that were identifiable were returned to their families on April 29, 1986. Three of the crew members, Judith Resnik, Dick Scobee, and Capt. Michael J. Smith, were buried by their families at Arlington National Cemetery at individual grave sites. Mission Specialist Lt Col Ellison Onizuka was buried at the National Memorial Cemetery of the Pacific in Honolulu, Hawaii. Unidentified crew remains were buried communally at the Space Shuttle Challenger Memorial in Arlington on May 20, 1986.[42]
(“When the Shuttle Columbia disintegrated over a 800 mile stretch of Texas and Louisiana during its re-entry to Earth, it was traveling at over 8,000 MPH. From California to Florida in less than 15 minutes.
All bodies were recovered. ALL. They found enough of the space shuttle to rebuild most of it during their investigation. Compare this to when Flight 93 crashed, there should have been almost 300 tons of debris along with 10 tons of human remains. But they recovered no debris or body parts, whatsoever.”) hmm.
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By the Numerology
Space Shuttle Challenger (NASA Orbiter Vehicle Designation: OV-099) was NASA’s second Space Shuttle orbiter to be put into service, Columbia having been the first…. Its maiden flight was on April 4, 1983 [=11], and it completed nine missions before breaking apart 73 seconds after the launch of its tenth mission, STS-51-L [51+L=3=9] on January 28, 1986 [1+28=11], resulting in the death of all seven crew members.
The “Challenger Disaster”:
The spacecraft disintegrated over [*9 miles above] the Atlantic Ocean, off the coast of central Florida at 11:38 am [11 + 11=22] EST (16:38 UTC) [7+11].On March 8 [3+8=11], 1986, a search team found the crew cabin; it had not been destroyed in the explosion. The bodies of all seven crew members were found, still strapped into their seats….
Autopsies were done but exact cause of death was inconclusive.
* 48,000 feet = 9.09090909 miles
On January 31, 1977 [=11], it was taken by road to Dryden Flight Research Center at Edwards Air Force Base, to begin operational testing.
[…]
The initial nine-month testing period was referred to by the acronym ALT, for “Approach and Landing Test”. These tests included a maiden “flight” on February 18 [=11], 1977 atop a Boeing 747 Shuttle Carrier Aircraft (SCA) to measure structural loads and ground handling and braking characteristics of the mated system.
[…]
On August 12 [=11], 1977, the space shuttle Enterprise flew on its own for the first time.Retirement:
With the completion of critical testing, Enterprise was partially disassembled to allow certain components to be reused in other shuttles, then underwent an international tour visiting France, Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom, Canada, and the U.S. states of California, Alabama, and Louisiana (during the 1984 Louisiana World Exposition). It was also used to fit-check the never-used shuttle launch pad at Vandenberg AFB, California.Finally, on November 18 [=11+9], 1985 [total=7], Enterprise was ferried to Washington, D.C., where it became property of the Smithsonian Institution.
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The remains of all seven astronauts from the Challenger disaster were discovered in the crew decks on the ocean floor. Gregory Jarvis‘ remains were discovered in the lower mid-deck along with fellow astronaut Ronald McNair and school teacher Christa McAuliffe.
During salvage operations to raise the crew deck from the ocean floor, Jarvis’ body escaped from the wreckage, floated to the surface, and disappeared back into the sea. On April 15, 1986 [=7], on the last scheduled attempt to recover wreckage, Jarvis’ body was rediscovered and returned to shore.
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“Let me now take you through the latest findings concerning the “Challenger crew” which supposedly perished back in 1986. We have seen that the two “female NASA martyrs” appear to be still alive and well, Ms. Judith Resnik and Sharon “Christa Mc Auliffe, both enjoying successful Law University positions and careers – while (astonishingly enough) still using pretty much their own names – i.e. the names & surnames with which they briefly became international celebrities – as the “NASA martyrs of the Challenger disaster”
JUDITH RESNIK___________________Judith Resnik (Yale Law University)
SHARON (“CHRISTA”) MC AULIFFE _____Sharon Mc Auliffe (Syracuse Law University)
source of image at left: https://www.pinterest.com/maureen0901/s … hallenger/
source of image at right: http://bhlawpllc.com/attorneys/sharon-a-mcauliffe/
Judith Resnik – YALE LAW SCHOOL: www.law.yale.edu/faculty/JResnik.htm
“In 2010, she was named a recipient of the Elizabeth Hurlock Beckman Prize, awarded to outstanding faculty in higher education in the fields of psychology or law. That year, Professor Resnik also had a cameo role in the Doug Liman film, Fair Game. In 2013, Professor Resnik was given the Arabella Babb Mansfield Award, the highest honor presented by the National Association of Women Lawyers. Professor Resnik also holds a term appointment as an Honorary Professor, Faculty of Laws, University College London.”
“RESNIK” name meaning:
Variant spelling of Jewish Reznik ‘ritual slaughterer’.
http://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=resnik
Judith Arlene Resnik
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Resnik
http://www.law.yale.edu/faculty/JResnik.htm
http://www.brynmawr.edu/news/2006-03-16/resnick.shtml
“Judith Resnik Cameo in Doug Liman Film, Fair Game” > http://www.law.yale.edu/news/12311.htm
“NASA-Judith”
“YALE-Judith”
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First Teacher in Space. Sharon “Christa” McAuliffe
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| NASA Spaceflight Participant[1] | |
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| Nationality | American |
| Status | Killed during mission |
| Born | September 2, 1948 Boston, Massachusetts |
| Died | January 28, 1986 (aged 37) Cape Canaveral, Florida |
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Other names
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Sharon Christa Corrigan |
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Other occupation
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Teacher |
| Selection | 1985 Teacher in Space Project |
The Council of Chief State School Officers, a non-profit organization of public officials in education, was chosen by NASA to coordinate the selection process.[25] Out of the initial applicant pool, 114 semi-finalists were nominated by state, territorial, and agency review panels. McAuliffe was one of two teachers nominated by the state of New Hampshire.[26] The semi-finalists gathered in Washington, DC, from June 22–27, 1985, for a conference on space education and to meet with the National Review Panel that would select the 10 finalists.[25]
On July 1, 1985, she was announced as one of the 10 finalists, and on July 7 she traveled to Johnson Space Center for a week of thorough medical examinations and briefings about space flight.[25] The finalists were interviewed by an evaluation committee composed of senior NASA officials, and the committee made recommendations to NASA Administrator James M. Beggs for the primary and backup candidates for the Teacher in Space Project. On July 19, 1985, Vice President George H. W. Bush announced that she had been selected for the position. Another teacher, Barbara Morgan, served as her backup.[
Unflippin’ Real?
http://izquotes.com/quote/122379
It may also be entirely coincidental that SYRACUSE-Sharon is a cousin of Terry McAuliffe, the current governor of Virginia who was co-chairman of President Bill Clinton’s 1996 re-election campaign, and was chairman of Hillary Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign.”
To be sure, Terry Mc Auliffe is apparently very much concerned about NASA funding issues…
McAuliffe wants risks shared for future rocket launches at Wallops Island
http://www.richmond.com/business/articl … 9c119.html
“Gov McAuliffe meets w/ NASA Administrator Bolden on building stronger partnerships between NASA & VA. ”
https://twitter.com/governorva/status/5 … 8223190016
“Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe [pictured above], U.S. Reps. Scott Rigell and Bobby Scott and a host of other dignitaries converged on NASA’s Langley Research Center Oct. 17 [2014] to mark the ceremonial opening of the Integrated Engineering Services Building.”
http://www.nasa.gov/larc/nasa-langleys-2014-year-in-review/
(Interesting that NASA has a research center in Langley, Virginia – home of the CIA… )
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/michael-oldak/2/89b/899
Education: Georgetown University Law Center (1971 – 1974)
Spouse: Judith Resnik (m. 1970-1974)
Astronot McAuliffe was married to – Judge of the United States District Court for the District of New Hampshire – Steven McCauliffe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_J._McAuliffe
He studied law at the Georgetown University Law Center from 1970 to 1973. He was a captain in the U.S. Army JAG Corps from 1973-77. From 1977-80, he was an assistant attorney general in New Hampshire. He was in private practice in Concord, New Hampshire from 1980 until his appointment to the federal bench in 1992 by President George H. W. Bush. He became Chief Judge of the New Hampshire district in 2004 on the expiration of Paul J. Barbadoro’s term as Chief Judge, serving in that capacity until 2011. He took senior status on April 1, 2013.Originally from Massachusetts, McAuliffe now lives in Concord, New Hampshire, where he serves as a Federal judge. Steve continues to serve as a Founding Director for Challenger Center for Space Science Education. He has two children, Scott and Caroline. In 1992, he married Kathleen E. McAuliffe.
He graduated from – Virginia Military Institute and Georgetown University. I’ll bet he knows Virginia Governor Terry (Sharon A. McAuliffe’s cousin ) really well.
And it gets better….or worse…
Sean O’Keefe, former NASA administrator, appointed university professor at SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY“O’Keefe, former administrator of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), is the 17th person in Syracuse University history to hold the title of University Professor.”
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/ … at_su.html
As previously mentioned, Sean O’Keefe is the NASA administrator who, back in 2002, announced (at Syracuse University) the upcoming Space Shuttle flight of “space teacher” Barbara Morgan – the designated successor of “space teacher and Challenger victim” Sharon Christa Mc Auliffe:
NASA boss names next teacher in spaceSYRACUSE, N.Y. (AP) — Sixteen years after Christa McAuliffe and six other astronauts died in the Challenger explosion, NASA announced Friday that McAuliffe’s fellow teacher and one-time understudy Barbara Morgan will ride aboard a shuttle in 2004.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nat … eacher.htm
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MICHAEL J. SMITH____________ Michael J. Smith (University of Wisconsin University)
A fellow named Michael J. Smith – who bears a striking resemblance to “NASA Challenger pilot Michael J. Smith” (30-year timelapse considered), is to be found alive and well, teaching at UW (University of Wisconsin, Madison): http://directory.engr.wisc.edu/ie/faculty/smith_michael
And: http://www.engr.wisc.edu/smith/
If he were still alive, the Challenger pilot should be 69 years old today. Well, there just happens to be a 69-year-old “Michael J. Smith living in Madison, Wisconsin”: http://www.lookupanyone.com/results.php … cusfirst=1
During his 18 years in the college, Smith has advised 80 master’s and PhD students. Recently, a group of those students honored him with a surprise party and an award for excellence in holistic education. “He respects you as an equal and gives you the freedom to explore your interests, challenge his ideas and talk to other professors. His door is always open,” says a former PhD student.
Smith, who earned his PhD in industrial psychology from UW-Madison and worked 13 years in industry before joining the industrial engineering faculty, also regularly volunteers to teach additional classes to ensure coverage of critical courses.
www.engr.wisc.edu/michaelsmithbio2003.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_J._Smith_%28astronaut%29
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RICHARD “DICK” SCOBEE________Richard Scobee (Cows in Trees ltd.)
source of picture at right; https://www.linkedin.com/pub/richard-scobee/18/754/238
A fellow named Richard Scobee – who bears a striking resemblance (30-year timelapse considered) to the “Challenger’s Commander Richard ‘Dick’ Scobee” is to be found, alive and well, as the CEO of a company called “Cows in Trees”. Here’s the company’s website intro, featuring a rocket-powered cow swirling around smoke in the sky – much like the Challenger Shuttle as it was seen exploding in mid-air (on TV) :
http://www.cowsintrees.com/
Incidentally yet interestingly, the son of “Challenger Commander” Richard Scobee (Brigadier General Richard W. Scobee, USAF) is, today, the deputy director of operations for NORAD (which, of course, was ‘accused of having failed to intercept the hijacked planes on 9/11″). Small world.
Now, the next two (seemingly-still-alive-Challenger-crew-members) are a bit of a different matter: these two look-alikes both claim to be BROTHERS of the two respective Challenger martyrs – yet both bear a striking resemblance to their allegedly deceased-back-in-1986 brothers. Could the two of them possibly just pretend to be … the brothers of themselves?
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RONALD MC NAIR_______________________________Carl Mc Nair
ELLISON ONIZUKA___________________________Claude Onizuka
Here we have an article featuring both Carl and Claude- in Space Science Week:
“Carl McNair and Claude Onizuka will celebrate the heroic legacies of their respective brothers, Ronald McNair and Ellison Onizuka, NASA astronauts who perished in the 1986 Challenger mission. They have championed their astronaut brothers as role models and have encouraged students from disadvantaged backgrounds to enter academic programs in science, technology, engineering and math.”
http://www.hawaii.edu/news/2012/03/02/s … ence-week/
And if you’re interested in what “inspirational speaker Carl Mc Nair” is up to: http://www.montana.edu/news/12347/found … ure-jan-21
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To Recap…It’s Alive! It’s Alive
Ellison Shoji Onizuka
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellison_Onizuka
http://www.hawaii.edu/news/2012/03/02/space-science-week/
Judith Arlene Resnik
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Resnik
http://www.law.yale.edu/faculty/JResnik.htm
http://www.brynmawr.edu/news/2006-03-16/resnick.shtml
Michael John Smith (pilot)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_J._Smith_(astronaut)
http://www.engr.wisc.edu/michaelsmithbio2003.html
Francis Richard Scobee
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Scobee
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/richard-scobee/18/754/238
Ronald Mcnair
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_McNair
http://www.montana.edu/news/12347/founder-of-national-programs-promoting-academic-excellence-to-deliver-msu-s-mlk-lecture-jan-21
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Look at the two guys on the right. They looked pissed and dumbfounded.
@ http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: … 001867.jpg – Ref http://grin.hq.nasa.gov/ABSTRACTS/GPN-2000-001867.html [Update note: http://www.challenger.org/about/gallery.cfm has been removed]
Crew members:
Francis R. Scobee – Mission Commander — Apparently no life or pictures outside NASA
Michael J. Smith – Pilot — Same + “Smith was portrayed by Brian Kerwin in the 1990 TV movie Challenger”.
Judith A. Resnik – Mission Specialist 1 — First American Jewish astro-not; 1st Jewish woman ‘in space’. Recruited by “Lt. Uhura” of Star Trek, Nichelle Nichols, for NASA
Ellison S. Onizuka – Mission Specialist 2 — 1st Asian American ‘in space’
Ronald E. McNair – Mission Specialist 3 — 2nd African-American astronaut. Also recruited by Nichelle Nichols
Gregory B. Jarvis – Payload Specialist 1 — **
Christa McAuliffe – Payload Specialist 2 — 1st “Teacher in Space” & subject of full scale media propaganda campaign for the “mission”.
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Alleged Columbia shuttle blowing up over Texas (NASA Image)
The Space Shuttle Columbia disaster occurred on February 1, 2003, when Columbia disintegrated over Texas and Louisiana as it reentered Earth’s atmosphere, killing all seven crew members.
During the launch of STS-107, Columbia’s 28th mission, a piece of foam insulation broke off from the Space Shuttle external tank and struck the left wing. A few previous shuttle launches had seen minor damage from foam shedding,[1] but some engineers suspected that the damage to Columbia was more serious. NASA managers limited the investigation, reasoning that the crew could not have fixed the problem if it had been confirmed.
Remember the link above to U of Wiscon-sin, Now we have another connection to shuttle disasters, The Columbia shuttle.
| Laurel Blair Salton Clark | |
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| NASA Astronaut |
Laurel Blair Salton Clark (March 10, 1961 – February 1, 2003) was a medical doctor, United States Navy Captain, NASA astronaut and Space Shuttle mission specialist who died in the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster. She is survived by her husband, fellow NASA flight surgeon Dr. Jonathan Clark (who was part of an official NASA panel that prepared the final 400-page report about the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster)
1983: Received bachelor of science degree in zoology from the University of Wisconsin–Madison
1987: Received doctorate in medicine from the University of Wisconsin–Madison]
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(Note how this does not show them orbiting the Earth but heading on 3 rails through a hole in space to the star. Weird.)
More underwater experience for those Hollywood “reality” shows made underwater
During medical school she did active duty training with the Diving Medicine Department at the United States Navy Experimental Diving Unit in March 1987. After completing medical school, Clark underwent postgraduate medical education in pediatrics from 1987 to 1988 at the National Naval Medical Center. The following year she completed Navy undersea medical officer training at the Naval Undersea Medical Institute in Groton, Connecticut, and diving medical officer training at the Naval Diving and Salvage Training Center in Panama City, Florida. Clark was designated a Radiation Health Officer and Undersea Medical Officer. She was then assigned as the Submarine Squadron 14 Medical Department Head in Holy Loch, Scotland. During that assignment she dove with Navy divers and Naval Special Warfare Unit Two SEALs and performed many medical evacuations from US submarines. After two years of operational experience she was designated as a Naval Submarine Medical Officer and Diving Medical Officer
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“C. Fred Kleinknecht, head of NASA at the time of the Apollo Space Program, is now the Sovereign Grand Commander of the Council of the 33rd Degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry of the Southern Jurisdiction. It was his reward for pulling it off!
All of the first astronauts were Freemasons. There is a photograph in the House of the Temple in Washington DC of Neil Armstrong supposedly on the moon’s surface in his spacesuit holding his Masonic Apron in front of his groin.” -William Cooper
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“A Challenging Enterprise of Columbia for the Discovery of Atlantis in an Endeavor”
or
“A Columbian Enterprise to Endavour for the Discovery of Atlantis and all Challengers shall be destroyed.”
Hollywood’s longest-running “reality show”
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(another University of Wisconsin and Yale Graduate!)
| T. Keith Glennan | |
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| Born | Thomas Keith Glennan September 8, 1905 Enderlin, North Dakota |
| Died | April 11, 1995 (aged 89) Mitchellville, Maryland |
| Nationality | United States |
| Education | University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire; Yale University |
| Occupation | Administrator; Scientist; University dean |
| Known for | Serving as the first administrator of NASA |
“Born in Enderlin, North Dakota, on September 8, 1905, Dr. Glennan earned a degree in electrical engineering from the Sheffield Scientific School of Yale University in 1927.Following graduation, he became associated with the newly developed sound motion picture industry, and later became assistant general service superintendent for Electrical Research Products Company, a subsidiary of Western Electric Company.During his career he was studio manager of Paramount Pictures, Inc., and Samuel Goldwyn Studios, and was briefly on the staff of Vega Airplane Corporation.”Glennan joined the Columbia University Division of War Research in 1942, serving throughout World War II, first as Administrator and then as Director of the U.S. Navy‘s Underwater Sound Laboratories at New London, Connecticut.
http://history.nasa.gov/Biographies/glennan.html
Amazing, isn’t it? Why would a former studio manager of Hollywood film companies (and a previous superintendent for a joint which made loudspeakers for the movie industry) be chosen by the US government to head the newly-formed NASA organization? Was there really no better, more qualified candidate to lead this immensely ambitious and “highly scientific” American space program?
Columbia University, founded by J.D. Rockefeller. Check. Paramount Studios. Check. U.S. Navy Underwater Sound Laboratories. Check. Onto NASA
Or was Mr Glennan, with his Hollywood background, a most appropriate candidate to launch what was to become, essentially, Hollywood’s longest-running “reality show”?
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Judith Resnik receiving the Outstanding Scholar Award at the Fellows of the American Bar Foundation’s Annual (2008) Award Banquet at
…wait for it…wait for it….. Paramount Studios in Los Angeles!!
Sources: http://www.brynmawr.edu/alumnae/bulleti … hways.html ** and ** http://www.yale.edu/opa/arc-ybc/v36.n18/story14.html
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NASA-Judith Reznik was recruited by STAR TREK tv / moviestar Nichelle Nichols (aka “Lt. UHURA”)
“Star Trek is an American science fiction entertainment franchise created by Gene Roddenberry and under the ownership of CBS and Paramount.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek
Actress Nichelle Nichols was born in Robbins, Illinois on December 29, 1936. She played Lieutenant Uhura the Communications Officer on the U.S.S. Enterprise in the original series, Star Trek. …
From the late 1970’s until the late 1980’s, NASA employed Nichelle Nichols to recruit new astronaut candidates.
Many of her new recruits were women or members of racial and ethnic minorities, including Guion Bluford (the first African-American astronaut), Sally Ride (the first female American astronaut), Judith Resnik (one of the original set of female astronauts, who perished during the launch of the Challenger on January 28, 1986), and Ronald McNair (the second African-American astronaut, and another victim of the Challenger accident).
Beginning as an imaginary spaceship on a TV series, Star Trek did continue: written and produced by NASA!
@ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_S … 001363.jpg
The Shuttle Enterprise rolls out of the Palmdale manufacturing facilities with Star Trek television cast members. From left to right they are: Dr. James D. Fletcher, NASA Administrator, DeForest Kelley (Dr. “Bones” McCoy), George Takei (Mr. Sulu), James Doohan (Chief Engineer Montgomery “Scotty” Scott), Nichelle Nichols (Lt. Uhura), Leonard Nimoy (the indefatigable Mr. Spock), Gene Rodenberry (The Great Bird of the Galaxy), and Walter Koenig (Ensign Pavel Checkov). Date: 17 September 1976. Author: NASA
The real winners of the Cold War were Nazi war criminals, many of whom were able to escape justice because the East and West became so rapidly focused after the war on challenging each other,” says Eli Rosenbaum, director of the Justice Department’s Office of Special Investigations and America’s chief Nazi hunter.
Rocketry: Rudi Beichel, Magnus von Braun, Wernher von Braun, Walter Dornberger, Werner Dahm, Konrad Dannenberg, Kurt H. Debus, Ernst R. G. Eckert, Krafft Arnold Ehricke, Otto Hirschler, Hermann H. Kurzweg, Fritz Mueller, Gerhard Reisig, Georg Rickhey, Arthur Rudolph, Ernst Stuhlinger, Werner Rosinski, Eberhard Rees, Ludwig Roth, Georg von Tiesenhausen, and Bernhard Tessmann
Aeronautics: Siegfried Knemeyer, Alexander Martin Lippisch, Hans von Ohain, Hans Multhopp, Kurt Tank
Medicine: Walter Schreiber, Kurt Blome, Hubertus Strughold, Hans Antmann (Human factors)
Electronics: Hans K. Ziegler, Kurt Lehovec, Hans Hollmann, Johannes Plendl, Heinz Schlicke
Intelligence: Reinhard Gehlen, Otto von Bolschwing
Dr. Wernher von Braun explains the Saturn Launch System to President John F. Kennedy — at Cape Canaveral, Florida..
- NASA Deputy Administrator Robert Seamans is to the left of von Braun.
- On 16 November 1963, six days before the President’s assassination.
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old joke:
Q: Where did the Challenger Astronots spend their vacation?
A: All over Florida.
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Bill Cooper discovered this interesting coincidence about the names of all NASA Space Shuttles.
All Shuttles in the order of their commissioning with serial numbers in brackets:
1. Enterprise (101)
2. Columbia (102)
3. Challenger (99)
4. Discovery (103)
5. Atlantis (104)
6. Endeavour (105)
Connecting these names in their commissioning order or in the order of the serial numbers results to:
“A Challenging Enterprise of Columbia for the Discovery of Atlantis in an Endeavour”.
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Tagged: challenger, columbia, Glennan, judith resnick, NASA, nasa hoax, Paramount Studios, star trek
Aplanetruth.info 
Why isn’t my name mentioned credit to the research of these astronauts being found?
http://opobnews.com/was-the-challenger-disaster-a-hoax-by-darrell-foss/
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sorry for the miss, nice find, credit being given in post. Thanx for the heads up.
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They were never on the Space shuttle to begin with! That easy. When the bus picked them up to take them to the shuttle, they went elsewhere. The whole NASA space shuttle program is a sham.
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“(Interesting that NASA has a research center in Langley, Virginia—home of the CIA…)”
Nope, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langley_Research_Center.
More biography
Lost astronaut–schoolteacher, Christa McAuliffe (Space Shuttle Challenger) (was a great niece of Lebanese–American historian, Philip Khuri Hitti) is Arab Christian.
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Thank you for updating with my credit.
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Great work Darrell and jwlpeace and we know that all things work Together for Good for them that love God, for them who are the called according to His purpose.
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This is OPOB News Journalists hard work why is there no mention of Darrell Foss or OPOB
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I did credit his excellent work Ms. Gibson in the very first paragraph of the piece
“At cluesforum.info, they have been uncovering more “inconvenient truths” for NASA as to the living Astro-nots, who alleged we’re killed in the alleged space shuttle Challenger disaster but are now found to be happily gainfully employed in colleges and jobs related to NAZIA. (recent thread here) . Credit also to Darell Foss at OpOd news for this find. (Source)”
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The moon landing lies, government pays NASA… was the tax payer made to pay for the Florida Disney Theme Park? NASA and Disney are one. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/14/how-the-cia-helped-disney-conquer-florida.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Disney_World Let’s be honest… what idiot in their right mind would shuttle themselves off into space with a huge bottle of explosion under their seat?
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I was a test subject for NASA after my enlistment in the Marine Corp, back in 1987. I did sleep studies, hyperbolic chamber studies, blood studies, even lived in the mock up space shuttle for seven days, testing rcrs re-breather oxygen studies. And even rode in the vomit comet. I enjoyed the testing and cash money. If you study some of the photo comparisons, you will see there are some issues with chin width, ears, eye distances. These facial features do not change thru time, do to your bone structure. Research facial recognition software, and skeletal forensics study.
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Uh, so let me get this straight…there are 4 supposed dead astronauts AND there are 4 people with the exact same names that look very much like the dead astronauts AND I am suppose to believe that they AREN’T one-(four)-in-the-same?? Hey, “former marine”, if you know one thing…it’s ONCE a Marine, ALWAYS a Marine…so, the fact that your “name” is “former”, I doubt you ever were.
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When given facts instead of opinions or beliefs, then yeah, you’re supposed to believe the facts presented, like a normal, reasonable brained person would…Also, have you not checked out the fact that if you want to advertise out there, you can find your own ‘twin’ in the world? Plenty of people have similar facial features, even people with similar or identical names. Plus, have you even talked to these people who you all want to say faked their deaths? No, you haven’t. And you discredit what they do in life, and discredit and dishonor the astronauts who died. Yeah, people are greedy, and selfish and there is corruption where there is power with little to no accountability, but you don’t need to create conspiracies. Reality is harsh enough. Go look at the tobacco industry and how they’re shoving cigs down kids’ throats in other countries, then suing any poor country that tries to be rid of them, for more than the country is worth. Go check out people like Donald Trump who have Narcissistic Personality Disorder and that means zero conscience, yet con so many people with their incessant need for power and attention. Go check out how the churches are stealing billions of your tax dollars to play make believe and brainwash people in masses just to keep feeding their myths and pockets all by hijacking your morals and not allowing you to question them. There are plenty of REAL greed and corruption and horrors in this world. Leave the dead alone, and go deal with reality.
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The world is a big place, of course there are people with same names and look (barely) alike. The worst example is the pictures of Christa Mcauliffe, the dimples and overall facial structure are very different, it’s not her. Furthermore, why would the government or whoever it is that is behind this conspiracy allow them to actually use similar names, all whilst having high profile jobs within this country.. Seriously, you talk like this nonsense is a common fact, it couldnt be further from the truth, you’re nuts.
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How convenient, you little bots show up 1 – 2 years after the original comment, discrediting the staggering evidence in a pathetic attempt to sway future viewers away from looking into this any further.
Keep lashing your serpent tongues…
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Considerable evidence has been presented linking Judith Resnik who was killed in January, 1986 in the explosion of NASA’s shuttle, Challenger, with Attorney
Judith Resnik who is a professor at Yale University’s College of Law.
There is ample pre-college background online for NASA-Judith, including a worshiping father, Marvin, and her high-school years near home in Akron, Ohio. The narrative is that she went on to study electrical engineering at Carnegie-Mellon and then earned a
PhD in EE from The University of Maryland before joining NASA and dying in the Challenger’s explosion.
There is less background online for Attorney Resnik. She emerges as a brilliant Bryn Mawr student at age 18 who graduated in 1972 and then graduated from law school at New York University in 1975.
Attorney Resnik’s resume has her leaving, in 1980, a position at Yale to teach at the University of Southern California in downtown Los Angeles. She remained in that area until returning east to Yale in 1997. If that time-line for Attorney Resnik is accurate, it puts her in
Los Angeles at the time of the Challenger’s explosion in January 1986. She remained in California for more than ten years.
Following Challenger’s 1986 explosion NASA-Judith’s heart-broken father, Marvin, moved in 1987 from Akron, Ohio to Encinitas, California (for the weather, no doubt) where he remained until his death in March, 2010. Prior to his death, he collected more than $2 million from the manufacturer of Challenger’s O-Rings, failure of which had been determined by NASA to have been the cause of his beloved daughter’s death.
I wonder if heart-broken Marvin Resnik ever knew that a brilliant young woman who, coincidentally, bears an uncanny resemblance to his beloved daughter, as well as carries his daughter’s name, Judith Resnik, was only an hour’s drive away.
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The above picture of Christa McAuliffe is actually that of Laurel Clark, who was one of the astronauts involved in the Columbia disaster in 2003 — you can see her name on her uniform. The real Christa McAuliffe looks nothing like the woman in the right-hand photograph, and I’m not so convinced about Resnik, either.
That doesn’t rule out a hoax, of course — NASA is a very dubious outfit indeed…
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I disagree, Christa looks very much like Clark. I think the same woman played in both roles. Even more in-your-face fun for our gov’t!
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it’s a flat Earth and thats that!
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nice try, but none of the people that you found here, claiming to be supposedly dead astronauts, are the people that you claim them to be. Anyone doing research that knows how to do research will find out the truth of the lies you have propagated here. for example, Resnick is not the same Resnick that was the astronaut…their photos on the internet prove that. As well as the McNairs…Carl is Ronald’s brother. I hope that you get caught by one of them in this scheme and get sued…
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where is your research, Mr. Researcher, proving this wrong??
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Where is any factual research prooving any of this? Go buy a few thousand dollar facial recognition program and run these “survivors” photos through.
This article is indicative of early stage schizophrenia. All the garbled numbers and equations that add up to nothing, I.e. 51+L=3=9 or my favorite 1+28=11 Haha
Have you ever heard of the seven day theory? Some crackpots theory that some random numbers to do with tupac equal 7 so he’s not dead, and that he would of course return on 7-7-7(which he did not). If you look at all of the numbers to do with a person or event you can certainly take some of them, toss in a few different symbols between the numbers and end up with at least a few of them equalling the same number, especially when you take the sum, remainder, product, exponents, etc. From the first set of numbers and run them together in more equations, eventually you can make everything equal 7 or 11 or 666 -_- if you consider that garbage proof you are delusional.
I suggest getting some actual proof, not some people who have the same haircut and eye color that are the age they would be now. Somewhere in the world there is someone who (probably quite unfortunately) looks like you. They aren’t though. There are only so many combinations of facial features, eventually out of nearly 7 billion living beings there is going to be at least one who resembles another one of those billions if people. Basic probability… Based on the schizo math you should understand probability without a problem.
Conclusion; watch the episode of Comedy Central’s “Review” where he reviews conspiracy theories
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Dude, you’re suggesting the “comedy channel” to get “truth”. Good one!
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You freaks are some desperate to discredit an underground conspiracy theory. Why bother even commenting if it’s so outlandish?
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I tried this once but it looks like it failed. Whoever did your research here is out the window, speaking as a professional researcher for over 25 years. Carl McNair is Ronald ‘s brother, NOT Ronald himself. Also, as GT opines above, the Resnick astronaut is NOT the same Resnick the lawyer, looking at their “untouched” photographs demonstrates that very clearly. I actually hope that one of them finds your website…I smell law suit…
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respectfully, you need to learn researching craft more deeply. you provide no evidence that thses claims are false except your “research” whereas we provide ample evidence, not just photo’s, but going to obituaries and ancestorial history records to show they are not dead and still alive. show your evidence (and just because you CAPITALIZE does not make you any more right!)
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jwlpeace…evidence that is false is not real evidence. The “ample” evidence that you provide is full of holes and speculations…it only “proves” your argument to those who already believe in the tails you spin. “Ancestral history”?????? And…just because you don’t like capitals doesn’t mean that you are right….but as I said, nice try.
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You bots are even using the same user names and the same “law suit” talking points. Are you really that lazy? Guess that’s why you’re all being snatched up left, right and center…
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BTW, astronaut is Judith Arlene Resnik.
Lawyer is Judith A. Resnik. Would her middle name be “Arlene”???
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Two of those folks that you say are the same person are actually siblings. I know you’ll never believe me, or care, but this has been completely debunked. Sorry.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/challenger.asp
As for “flat earth”, you’re nuts, but that’s not really my problem.
And I doubt you’ll approve my comment because it does not represent your views, but I just thought you should know.
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Sir or Madam, it is not a question of believing you but rather the many many Co-Incidences of mass lies by NASA, this just being another huge one. the article in Snopes is ambiguous and inconclusive. I stand with my post and proof.
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I appreciate your appreciation of my information. I reccomend you do some research into the falsehoods or facts of the Snopes article. I will likely do the same. Happy Halloween.
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Much of what you call “coincidences” appear only to be so to you. This flat earth nonsense has nothing to do with the other disjointed “evidences” that flat earthers try to make them out to be. In order for your theory of a flat earth to be accepted as even a smidgen of truth to it – like all scientific endeavors – your theory MUST be able to explain what we observe in nature. So, sorry, but it does not.
You need to be able to explain why, if the earth is flat, that we have seasons…because seasons are in full cooperation with a circular plant, NOT with a flat one. Other sites cite passages out of the Bible for their belief in a flat earth, which is quite hilarious because they take such “evidences” out of context and have absolutely no idea how to read the Bible.
Your theory MUST be able to explain why the equatorial plains around the earth are warmer than other plains…which fit the globe model but NOT a flat earth. Your model MUST also explain how one side of the flat earth is day while the other side is night…which would be impossible for a flat earth scenario. And there are many more problems with such a ridiculous theory…
Even IF (and that is a big “IF”) your conspiracy theory about dead astronauts really being alive was true – IT has absolutely NOTHING to do with a flat earth model. If you were a lawyer you would lose every case presenting things as you do. Not trying to be mean or anything, just saying.
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Who’s still going to Snopes as a debunking too?! Bahahaha!! I’m sorry. Probably a really old person without an updated grandchild, or more likely, great grandchild to say “Don’t go there! Snopes is for dopes.”
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This verbal diarrhea being expunged by someone who claims to be “Teaching the Word of God from New Covenant understanding.”….
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Smell a bullshit story
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Complete BS, Taking a look at the frames of their faces and their features, it is easy to tell this is a complete lie. I can not believe someone would disgrace their memories like this. The space ship broke apart in flight. Miles in the air. If they did survive that, then they would have died in the impact of the ocean. Literal shame on this person who has no morals. Why would you even lie about something like this? Its completely wrong. And, by the way, I grew up same place as Onizuka and the person who you say is him is his brother. Nice try. But…….. not.
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No one is suggesting the survived an explosion. They were never aboard the ship to begin with. I’m happy people are out there doing their own research and not just lapping up official government stories that are fed to them daily. Also, you knew Onizuka??? Bullshit.
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“Doing their own research.” Or just concocting BS clickbait stories to fool people who never learned critical thinking skills. This is in the same vein as those clickbait links at the bottom of tabloid news sites – “You’ll never guess which Hollywood stars are transvestites!” with pics of people of the opposite sex who vaguely resemble actors and acresses. Or “You’ll never guess what she looks like now!” with photoshopped pics of ‘formerly’ fat actresses. You probably fall for those too.
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To Ryan, my thoughts exactly. Imagine the dilemma they found themselves in when the damned thing exploded? The only one I don’t see here is Christa McAuliffe.
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Garbage! Take down this site! None of those people even look similar to the crew. We all wish it had never happened but it did and the crew did died in the Shuttle disaster. You are CRUEL and DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!
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[…] I have a new rule: For any phenomena that happens within the bounds of human perception, there will be a website that claims it never happened. So it is, tragically, that I am no unable to un-see the website that claims that the Challenger explosion never happened. I debated not linking to it. But then I remembered that people were having a hard time understanding how Donald Trump could be a leading presidential candidate. I urge you not read this website if you’re feeling particularly nihilistic today, but if some good old-fashioned crazy-assed lunacy is your cup of tea, here you go. […]
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Pure gold!! Kept me well entertained. Not sure what was funnier the article or the comments.
“You need to be smacked” you sir are a true champ! Haven’t laughed so hard in ages.
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Why people like you just don’t go to earn money or hanging out with their family instead of trying to get attention and possible profit by creating random hoax using exaggarated / misrepresented facts and nonsense “calculations”. Unfortunately it’s already also my fault that this crap drew my attention and made me leave a comment here.
I wish to you and all the bored conspiracy idiots out there, that writing these pointless entries will be the biggest joy in your entire life.
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For those of you who don’t believe this article, then answer me this ….. why was Elvis seen adjusting the O-rings before take-off? And why was Bigfoot driving the van that took the crew to the launch pad? And why was JFK put in charge of launch area security the night before launch? And why did parts of debris from explosion float into the Bermuda Triangle where it was hidden by Amelia Earhart. Hmmmm?!?
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and can one power control so much for so long that not only murdering of JFK, but Lincoln, Harrison, MLK, RFK, Pope Paul II, Archduke Ferdinand, etc. etc.??
YES
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What a load of bullshit these crackpots are spreading its like cancer it will spread to those with a warped sense of view ,feel sorry for the family’s who lost loved ones & have to put up with these peoples crap ,hope they bring in a law where you can sue the pants off them
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The hoax was to protect CIA against an investigation
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I can’t say that it is or isn’t true but I do know for a fact that there are a lot of strange things going on with the government and I’ve seen it with my own eyes for instance.I was at the Boston marathon when an supposed explosion happened rite at the very spot in fact.and I can tell from an I witness point of view there WAS NO EXPLOSION fact
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Fraud Vitiates Everything!
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My God you people — this is in bad taste —
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some of these people have facial similarities but noses, chins, ears are different, sorry but its a thumbs down
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Hahaha, very funny reading, the author is an utter cretin.
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Real Truth is Hard to Find when competing with Ignorance – but I will give it a shot.
The world is not flat. Planets like Earth that revolve around the sun are round. How do we know this? Let’s start with some “common ground”, like the Sun is real. The planet that we live on is real, there are other planets like Mars, Saturn, Jupiter etc., all real. What created them? When the solar system was formed, the sun trapped the bodies we call planets (Venus, Earth, Mars), except they were not like they are today. They were gases. As the earth started cool it also began to spin and created the axis we call the north and south pole. This rotation stated creating what we call gravity based on the mass of the object spinning. As we continued to cool, we did this by traveling around the Sunalso known as a – Calendar year. Evidence shows that early man created stone carvings to anticipate where the earth was along this Calendar year to help with the growing seasons (Summer/Winter Solstice).
But I digress.
Planets weigh nothing in space – there is no weight only mass. The gases that started out as our planets today, started to spin and create electromagnetic fields, causing what we refer to as gravity. Gravity is indiscriminate, it affect everything including light. Gravity pulled the gases together forming a sphere – it tends to happen when you pull from the center of something. That is why everything in space is round. Just to be clear… I am not talking about an asteroid or comet;) that may not be round, but then again they are not considered planets revolving around a sun either.
Why is the earth round? because gravity pulls from the middle, and does not pull “harder” on one side than it does another, it pulls equally, towards the center. It is NOT POSSIBLE, for gas to ignore a natural law.
“Gas can not consolidate and form as a flat surface – because gravity does not exist flat… it is always a the center pulling towards the middle.”
As stated, in “Space” there is NO weight, so the only thing a planet and or sun must do to keep the contents together is to spin and create a magnetic field, and in this case gravity. I am sorry to say that we are not special – even though we make declination that we are… This planet is not unique – we can argue that it contains life (intelligent life) and therefore unique. That’s pretty much it.
I know this Post is about the Space Shuttle disaster although under the premise of a “Plane Not A Planet” so I have to say something. A secret world conspiracy – really??, We live on a Flat Planet really?? Maybe the world is flat and all of the people living on the planet are ignorant to the secrets. I will stick to my understanding of a “round world” and say “Best of Luck” with the whole flat world theory.
I’d rather focus on real discovery, real science – prove something beyond regurgitation of media photos and theories not supported by science.
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Neil deGrasse Tyson, the leading astrophysicist in America and honored with awards from both NASA and the National Academy of Sciences, would disagree with you. He said the earth is an oblate spheroid, kind of chubby, and pear-shaped. He even demonstrated the shape with his hands. Are you saying he is wrong?
“Why is the earth round? because gravity pulls from the middle, and does not pull “harder” on one side than it does another, it pulls equally, towards the center.”
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Riz, that is a magnificent story about science! Thank you for sharing.
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This wasn’t an actual “Mandela Effect” claim; but sort of on a similar theme. I started getting
hooked into the “Mandela Effect” videos; but they all seemed sort of . . nothing after all.
I’m 70 yrs. old; and one guy vowed & declared that the ME had CHANGED the “original”
spelling of “banana”; from “ban-anna” to “banana”. BANANA has ALWAYS been spelled
BANANA, NEVER EVER “ban-anna”! When I realized many people just had too much
time on their hands, I just let it go. Too many distractions are distracting too many folks!!
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Space may be the final frontier, but it’s made in a Hollywood basement.
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Yep
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I noticed that Riz did not address the poeple still being alive .
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Its all spiritual warefare. MAN wants to be GOD – but can’t cause they can’t even get into space. Never will. The Canopy is stronger than nukes. They (US and USSR) tried to nuke it open in the 50’s and failed. Now we have to deal with the BS and NASA and all kinds of crap. I am to the point where everything is a lie on earth – the round earth, the moon and sun being far away, the deceptions on earth such as 911, Sandy Hook, California Shootings, and now the SPace Shuttle AstroNOTS in the 80’s – Lie after Lie afer Lie and it gets freeking old people. But now that I know more truth than yesterday and see an earth that is enclosed by a canopy and mankind can’t mess that up, I have a new outlook on life and things are LOOKING UP (pardon the pun)
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And how do you people explain the debris of the Columbia, including the human body parts?
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Addressing the launch and ascent of 51L – I was an Orlando, FL area high school science teacher whom stood with his students outside the classroom while facing east on the morning of 1/28/86. We watched the climbing space shuttle clear a line of pine trees before it obviously broke up. Thousands of flickering lights appeared in the sky, obviously spinning fragments reflecting sunlight. The SRB’s were out of control as their flight paths were random. In following years, we watched the orbiting shuttle pass over our school during certain flights and even talked to them by amateur radio through a moving antenna pointed toward their flight path. The space program is for real, even it’s flaws and imperfections.
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off course if this was real you can expect all kind of fake people here saying the opposite… government media agents, like those from israel. Why they would do that? Maybe was a mission outside the solar system that was too risky , and it happens that they suceeded. Other option is that they are not “our” astronauts, but the maybe they arrived from another , a parallel universe, brought by a wormhole that their challenger was taken by accident or on purpose. Here is my 2 cents. One must be just intelligent to suppose and look for answers.
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Accurate or not, the east coast colleges spawned skull and bones, etc. so I included your work and will let the truth sort itself out. Please do not disturb, nasa asked me to go on a mission to venus to see what I could see, they gave me orange sunshine lsd to snort into my arm to open my neurons. https://vimeo.com/238197041
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What a joke! Hahaha! Worst example of an “investigation” I’ve ever seen. Both “evidence” and theories are ridiculous. Really? They’re all alive and using their real last names and working high profile jobs? Really? The government couldn’t do any better than that? Get real. They would have changed their names completely and been given enough cash to do whatever they want and stay out of sight. And no, “most” of the Columbia was not found. About 40% at best, and that was by weight. The engines make up the bulk of that, just like in any aircraft. Plus Columbia had basically no fuel on board, so it broke apart. It didn’t explode and incinerate like the Challenger did. And Columbia broke up over land, so the parts were much easier to find, with literally thousands of people out walking around and looking for them. Challenger was deep in the ocean. Lighter/smaller parts would have drifted for miles and miles before reaching the bottom.
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How to test this. Call them and ask them. Although my understanding of you crazies is a “No” is most definately a “Yes” in your eyes.
https://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/ESRS/HDEV/
Just saying…
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[…] can read more about them here… and here is a short video on the Challenger mission […]
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I enjoy satire as much as anyone, however I do agree it is an injustice to dishonor these brave individuals. Also, I won’t waste my time proving the earth’s shape, as ” there are none so blind as those who simply will not see . “0
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Can you please make a T-Shirts that say:
Judith Resnik Is Still Alive
with before and after pictures.
I will buy that T-Shirt if you make it.
Or a T-Shirt that says:
Judith Resnik Survived the Challenger Explosion
also with before and after pictures
I think Judith Resnik is a hero. I think she deliberately kept her name the same and I think she deliberately made a movie with Sean Penn to let “we the people” catch-on to the truth. She obviously can’t say anything or else she’ll get the curtains. But I think she was very disappointed with all the lies and deception.
I think she really is trying to let us know the truth indirectly, else she wouldn’t have made her self so obvious.
The hand gestures, the voice, the age, same face, etc., says it all.
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I bet Yale University Professor of Law Judith Resnik still has her 1985 driver’s license pictures and her high school yearbook pictures and her college yearbook pictures.
Somebody has to disclose those someday.
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NASA is just a organization that is used today as a money laundering operation for the CIA. They have a budget but dont really do anything..hell they even by the rockets from the Russians……
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You might find this in a MAD Magazine or The Enquirer, these conspiracies have been debunked a long time ago. I mean, you may as well believe that the earth is flat, planes can’t really fly, and cars don’t actually run on gasoline, that it’s just some kind of mass hypnosis. The funny thing is, once Mankind unlocks the mysteries of sciences, people become less amazed by it and then suddenly become bored by it all. People become so bored that they decide not to believe their own eyes or common sense anymore. People are sure weird.
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You know what amazes me? “People” showing up almost five years later to try and discredit an already obscure conspiracy on a very obscure website…
“Robert Willert”
That’s really the best you can come up with? Don’t tell me you guys make up drivers licenses and social security numbers for them too…
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Buz Aldrin maintains that when he was sober he flew a rocket to the moon and back
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[…] reports of the crew still being alive never seem to go away […]
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I want to believe, however, the “Professor” version of Judith Resnik was a law professor prior-to and throughout 1986.
https://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/fss_papers/919/
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[…] Sur cluesforum.info, ils ont découvert des “vérités gênantes” sur la NASA quant aux Astro-nots, qui sont prétendument morts dans le soit disant désastre de la navette spatiale Challenger, mais qui se trouvent maintenant heureusement employés de manière lucrative dans des collèges et des emplois, liés à NAZIA. Cf: Dernières nouvelles! Ils sont vivants !!! L’équipage de la navette spatiale Challenger est en lieu sûr et so… […]
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And people still believe the news, Sandy Hook, and now going out wearing mask for “CV” , after all these years. Belief in gov’t that’s nothing more than actors and or dark witches using mind control suped up with technological tools to harness the energies and get inside out heads. TV, Internet, etc. They had to take down towers just to show something actually “real: although an inside job, Just to convince and get our consent to give up our rights, How can we believe anything from Hollywood or DC etc. Their weird ass cult.
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