Start Here

~ Comments, submissions and constructive critiques all welcome as long as it is civil. 

This site asks many more questions than it answers. Common sense and our own eyes tell our brains that the Sun and Moon move across our horizons each and every day and that the Earth is a plane, as seen from standing on any beach in the world and looking out over the ocean as well as from an airplane.

Common Sense and reason tell us the Earth is stationary and not rotating on her axis at and incredible 1,000 mph as well as orbiting around the Sun at some 1,000 mp/second traveling some 533 million miles each and every year while our Solar System is then traveling around the Milky Way at over 500,000 mph, as science claims it is.

Why would “they” perpetuate such a massive lie for so long?

Literally to keep our individual powers in check in that we are the center of the universe and all have the Kingdom of God within.

As Above, So Below.

200 Proofs Earth NOT a Globe


The Flammarion (1888). The image depicts a man crawling under the edge of the sky, depicted as if it were a solid hemisphere and plane earth, to look at the mysterious Empyrean beyond. The caption translates to “A medieval missionary tells that he has found the point where heaven and Earth meet…”

Since the end of the Dark Ages and the beginning of the Scientific Revolution, around the mid-1500’s, the world has been told, and believed, the Earth to be a globe.

The spheroid called Earth, spinning in a complete circle every 24 hours on it’s tilted access traveling at some 1,000 mph while yearly circumnavigating the Sun in one year traveling an additional 68,000 mph, or 1,000 mile per/second.

We are told by astronomy phycisists that our Sun Solar System travels around our Milky Way Galaxy at over 500,000 mph, while we are glued to Earth through gravity in a atmospheric cocoon that keeps all motion in sync with a rapidly spinning ball that we all live upon.

Yet the 500 year old story of a heliocentric solar system vs. the 3500 year story of a flat plane geocentric Earth began when the Vatican held all knowledge and book publishing just began so the masses could educate themselves in the 15th and 16th centuries.

From Copernicus to Galileo to Newton to Kepler, all validated “proven” science came from the Royal Society of London.

Starting with the Industrial Devolution , at the beginning of the 20th century, all school text books and teacher accreditation’s were founded and funded by Robber Baron’s, Rockefeller, JP Morgan, Ford et. al (Source)

After WWII, with the critical assistance of the Vatican “ratline” passports, the United States brought Nazi Rocketeer “Wunderkind”, Werhner Von Braun, into the country through Operation Paperclip.

Von Braun ran NASA’s Saturn rocket program for 25 years.  All feeds that came from the Moon on the alleged first Man on the Moon transmission came from one feed at NASA where all TV broadcasters had to copy from.

Since the 1960’s, when we entered the “space race” against our alleged arch enemy, Russia, during the cold war, NASA has provided us the narrative of our physical Earth, with every single picture and every single story, about what we have learned from the Cosmos through telescopes and space exploration.

“Maintain a lie or secret for one generation and the next generartion becomes easy pickings, particularly if the lie is echoed in school textbooks, TV cartoons, The History and Discovery Channels. Confuse one generation and the next will happily ingest the media gruel prepared for them.”     ~ Elana Freeland

Since the 1800’s, very few have challenged the Heliocentric theory because it is “settled science”.

Until now.

Our most basic cultural identities, of a global earth traveling around a central star, traveling around a galaxy amongst billions and billions of other galaxies, too far away to fathom, with their own planets and solar systems in the universe, is accepted common knowledge to all.

Yet, If one simply observes for themselves, without prejudice or belief, he/she would see a Sun and Moon traveling across the sky each day along a prescribed path from East to West.

We see the size of the Sun and Moon being relatively the same.

We feel no motion of an Earth traveling at 1,000 mph each and every day around a Sun traveling at 1,000 miles/second and over 500,000 mph around the Milky Way galaxy.

And no matter how high in a plane we are, we never see the curvature of the Earth, only a flat, level plane.

Only from NASA and Google Earth do we see any curvature, yet simple physics tells us we should.

The ancients called it a “Sunrise” and “Sunset” and we use that same language today, though we are told that these terms are incorrect in basic astronomical physics. No English teacher of proper usage of grammar, or any physicist, ever corrects this erroneous description of our “settled” knowledge as to the physics of a heliocentric Earth.

For over 3500 years many cultures including the ancient Summerians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Vedic Indians, Chinese and original Native Americans believed the earth to the center of all things in the Universe.

Additionally, the Bible is filled with references of a flat earth and firmament above in a closed system.

Once a generation is indoctrinated to a way of thinking, it is very easy for following generations to admit as fact what was once considered nonsensical.

If long term powers that be wanted to control world knowledge, to make the every man, women and child think and feel insignificant, and not hold the thought of a “Kingdom of God Within”, you would tell him he is only a very, very, very small part of a much bigger whole that he cannot possible comprehend or understand.

As Above, So Below

Alice goes down the rabbit hole.

This blog is an attempt to bring to those open-minded enough material to consider the possibility that we have been brainwashed completely and successfully for some 500 years!

The site is explore, question, inform and solve hidden truths about whether we are a plane or a planet, whether the Moon and Sun move across our skies as it appears, or that what we see is not really what is happening “out there” but we hold our own Sun, Moon and stars within each of us.

So let’s go chase some rabbits down the hole with open minds and insatiable curiosity for truth and higher consciousness …..

208 thoughts on “Start Here

  1. HappyBirthday July 21, 2018 at 3:27 am Reply

    I just read a series of articles that explained how flat earth ideas came back into vogue in the 1950s by some people who just wanted to troll gullible people. Then it kept growing but mostly as a way to have fun and to see how creative and clever the writers could get. Thing is,a lot of people began believing the ideas. And the group separated into believers and trolls.
    Interesting. Don’t you think?


  2. Rorschach July 23, 2018 at 4:48 am Reply

    It’s almost as if there’s a whole group out there that takes metaphors literally.

    And also… is every planet in the known universe flat, or just Earth? I’m very confused about that.


    • John Morgan September 6, 2018 at 5:11 pm Reply

      no planets exist silly person… also, no planes were used on 911… now go back to bed…


  3. Lindsay Moffett August 6, 2018 at 9:36 pm Reply

    I wanted to give you some info on another fire that was most likely a product of d.e.w I’ll attach some photos of slave lake Alberta Canada wildfire from 2011. A third of the entire city was destroyed and the pics are eerily similar to d e.w from Greece and California etc.


  4. Amy Jensen August 9, 2018 at 7:04 pm Reply

    Do you have an email address to send info/pics too? I’ve been documenting the skies where I live the past year and have some interesting evidence. I would love your insight. I happen to live 4 miles from an AFB. Thank you!


  5. Brian Rosino August 13, 2018 at 7:26 pm Reply

    Just watched, “Why Maj is being legalized all at once.” Great info, great research but when you want to send a vid to someone with their head up their ass it doesn’t work. You have too many issues in one vid. Hemp, mind control, health issues. If you preach to peeps that already get it, its Ok but if you want to educate peeps who are ignorant, it doesn’t work well. It would be great to have shorter vids that just focus on one issue at a time. Thanks much for all you do.


  6. mike August 16, 2018 at 11:35 pm Reply

    Hey brother, I watch a ton of your stuff. I’m a Christian FE believer. I just got a letter from SC Edison saying they were gonna start shutting down power in high risk fire areas like ours. If i didnt know the Lord I’d be terrified. I feel I need a plan and to warn my community. I’d love to talk if you’d consider giving me a call. Mike 323 455 6333
    God bless


  7. Matt Musich August 18, 2018 at 8:18 pm Reply

    The Ohio serpent mound,
    Please do a segment on this.
    The serpent mound is not a serpent eating an egg it is actually a sperm.when have you seen a snake eating an egg, that is extremely rare. But at closer inspection the mound is an exact representation of a microscopic zygote, with ungulating tail and DNA packet showing a clear separation where the tail snaps off from the packet when it is inserted into the ovam. How would ancient people have known about this?


    • Yahooty's Booty January 17, 2019 at 2:11 am Reply

      You obviously don’t live on a farm. Snakes love eggs. They have gone from one nesting box to another, through a knot hole, eating an egg in each box, thus getting trapped until their eggs digest. This site mixes a lot of real truths mixed with a lot of phooey. Shame. Because the people believe the lies because they believed the truth. If it was a truthful site, it would tell the whole truth, and nothing but the whole truth.


  8. Tammy August 24, 2018 at 3:41 am Reply

    Really enjoy the info you post. I live in east bay area and am concerned about the fires. Just wanted to let you know about a website:
    It is a goldmine of military and secret info. There is even info on ember bombs, and DEW weapons. Keep up the great work!


  9. republicofgrace15 September 16, 2018 at 2:01 am Reply

    Thank you so much for this web site and all of the resources contained therein! May grace and peace be with you from God The Father and Our Lord Jesus Christ—Rick


    • Yahooty's Booty January 17, 2019 at 2:15 am Reply

      Please use discernment with this site. Not all is truth. Even Satan can trick a person by mixing fact with fiction. God bless you. Some of the trickory is very obvious, especially if you know the facts.


  10. John Daugherty September 21, 2018 at 1:51 pm Reply

    Love your work. I was just watching your video on paul mccartney being dead and Billy Shears taking over for him. You read from a book on Tavistock that mentioned a German musician had written all of the Beatles music. He was a jew as were all of his co-horts in Germany who invented rock-n-roll, according to what you were reading. And yet, you go on and on with the Jesuit drivel. Do you not know that the Jesuots were founded by jews? 4 of the 5 founders were Mariano- crypto jews whose families were forced to convert to Catholicism in order to remain in Spain. So, there is no either/or. The Jesuits are the jews and vice-versa. The popes best friend is a rabbi! Quit making excuses for the synagogue of Satan. P. S. I am not Catholic.


  11. Sam September 24, 2018 at 12:26 pm Reply

    Why was women seduce and prey on men by nature taken down? Please tell me where I can find it?🙏🏻


  12. Rik Rice October 4, 2018 at 2:14 am Reply

    jamie, hello my friend, at least i feel you are my friend, as i listen to you everyday. i am so proud of you and your courage to tell the world the truth as you see it. thanks for all your insight and effort and of course your courage and pride to do what you do. I lived in marin for over 13 years in Fairfax and enjoyed the right minded thinker there, now in Thailand. life is a wild one now for sure, not much to do but watch the show and be the role model while researching ourselves into a deep WTF everyday. thanks bro….my ears to you for you are the voice and you should be president.


  13. Stan Hansen January 12, 2019 at 9:15 am Reply

    What’s going on with this site? Half of the content is gone or just doesn’t come up even if you wait for it? You had some great stuff. If YouTube pulls a video, is there no other way to view your content? Didn’t this site have an article about true Biblical Jerusalem at the center of flat earth? This page has turned into a disappointment.


  14. Mischa Popoff January 13, 2019 at 2:52 am Reply

    I worked for 5 years as a USDA-contract organic-inspector and have some insider information to share with you. Please get back to me if you’re interested. 

    Mischa and Sherry Popoff
    Royse City TX


  15. Daniel hansen January 13, 2019 at 11:37 pm Reply

    Hi me and my family are from the paradise area and we’ve been told that your may be able to help us out with the owner home now we’re homeless doesn’t make much sense but if there’s anything that you could do would appreciate it if you can’t do anything if you could pray for us that would also help to our names is Daniel Hanson phone numbers 530-204-3799 we are currently staying family adopted us to live in one of the rooms but we’d like to get back on our own and be able to have a life again thank you for reading this


  16. Anthony C Ciraulo January 17, 2019 at 10:12 pm Reply

    Richie from Boston is a shill along with odd TV he went to visit him in Colorado you can see their shells richiefromboston friend who lives in La the woman actor who has the doctor that whole things BS that chemtrail lung what’s that here…. Also. Jamie I love when you do your videos I know we all find things sometimes later this is probably one of those please check these people out thanks


  17. Jay January 24, 2019 at 5:19 pm Reply

    At the North pole Polaris is straight up in the sky. This is observable. This isn’t a theory or conjecture, it is a fact. Globe deniers like to say trust your senses, right? At the equator Polaris is on the horizon. Again, this is OBSERVABLE and a fact. Please explain to me how this works of a flat plane.


  18. Anne February 1, 2019 at 3:20 am Reply

    How can I contact Jamie Lee? I cannot find a contact page on this site and while this may be because I’m on a phone, I also did research on Google, but then again, that may be the answer as to why not……anyone have his email contact info???


  19. Tis me February 15, 2019 at 6:04 pm Reply

    too bad about the boob tube channel


  20. Marie February 24, 2019 at 9:11 am Reply

    Were you able to upload your videos on another site? One day I just couldn’t find your channel.


  21. martellus March 3, 2019 at 6:28 pm Reply

    I open to any evidences based theories.

    I have a military aviation background. Please explain line of site radio communications (the higher the aircraft, the further the radio range as a function of earth’s curvature), as it pertains to flat earth.

    Please explain Foucault’s Pendulum as it regards the earth’s rotation, as it pertains to flat earth.


  22. martellus March 3, 2019 at 6:29 pm Reply

    I open to any evidences based theories.

    I have a military aviation background. Please explain line of sight radio communications (the higher the aircraft, the further the radio range as a function of earth’s curvature), as it pertains to flat earth.

    Please explain Foucault’s Pendulum as it regards the earth’s rotation, as it pertains to flat earth.


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