# 17 If A Flat Earth, Why Does the Sun Go Down?


The Sun never sets or rises, it stays the same distance over the Earth throughout it’s daily/annual journeys around. The appearance of rising and setting is all based on the law of perspective on plane surfaces. The Sun and Moon spotlights are perpetually hovering over and parallel to the surface of the Earth.

From our vantage point, due to the Law of Perspective, the day/night luminaries appear to rise up the Eastern horizon, curve peaking high overhead, and then sink below the Western horizon. They do not escape to the underside of the Flat-Earth as one might imagine, but rather rotate concentric clockwise circles around the circumference from tropic to tropic.  ~ Eric Dubay.

Sun Over horizon on Flat Earth explained

“Although the Sun is at all times above and parallel to the Earth’s surface, he appears to ascend the firmament from morning until noon, and to descend and sink below the horizon at evening. This arises from a simple and everywhere visible law of perspective. A flock of birds, when passing over a flat or marshy country, always appears to descend as it recedes; and if the flock is extensive, the first bird appears lower, or nearer to the horizon than the last. The farthest light in a row of lamps appears the lowest, although each one has the same altitude. Bearing these phenomena in mind, it will easily be seen how the Sun, although always parallel to the surface of the Earth, must appear to ascend when approaching, and descend after leaving the meridian or noon-day position.” -Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, “Earth Not a Globe, 2nd Edition” (85)

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Law of Perspective

“This law of Perspective meets us on every hand; and cannot be gainsaid.

If, in a straight line, we look at a frozen lake from a certain distance, we shall observe people who appear to be skating on their knees, but, if we approach sufficiently near, we shall see them performing graceful motions on their feet. Farther, if we look through a straight tunnel, we shall notice that the roof and the roadway below converge to a point of light at the end.

It is the same law which makes the hills sink, to the horizon, as the observer recedes, which explains how the ship’s hull disappears in the offing. I would also remark that when the sea is undisturbed by waves, the hull can be restored to sight by the aid of a good telescope long after it has disappeared from the naked eye, thus proving that the ship had not gone down behind the watery hill of a convex globe, but is still sailing on the level of a Plane sea.” -David Wardlaw Scott, “Terra Firma” (75)

“What can be more common than the observation that, standing at one end of a long row of lamp-posts, those nearest to us seem to be the highest; and those farthest away the lowest; whilst, as we move along towards the opposite end of the series, those which we approach seem to get higher, and those we are leaving behind appear to gradually become lower … It is an ordinary effect of perspective for an object to appear lower and lower as the observer goes farther and farther away from it.

Let any one try the experiment of looking at a light-house, church spire, monument, gas lamp, or other elevated object, from a distance of only a few yards, and notice the angle at which it is observed. On going farther away, the angle under which it is seen will diminish, and the object will appear lower and lower as the distance of the observer increases, until, at a certain point, the line of sight to the object, and the apparently uprising surface of the earth upon or over which it stands, will converge to the angle which constitutes the ‘vanishing point’ or the horizon; beyond which it will be invisible.” -Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, “Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Not a Globe!” (230-1)


Why A Ship Appears to Go Down Over the Horizon

  “Another favorite “proof” of ball-Earthers is the appearance from an observer on shore of ships’ hulls being obfuscated by the water and disappearing from view when sailing away towards the horizon. Their claim is that ship’s hulls disappear before their mast-heads because the ship is beginning its declination around the convex curvature of the ball-Earth.

Once again, however, their hasty conclusion is drawn from a faulty premise, namely that only on a ball-Earth can this phenomenon occur. The fact of the matter is that the Law of Perspective on plane surfaces dictates and necessitates the exact same occurrence. For example a girl wearing a dress walking away towards the horizon will appear to sink into the Earth the farther away she walks. Her feet will disappear from view first and the distance between the ground and the bottom of her dress will gradually diminish until after about half a mile it seems like her dress is touching the ground as she walks on invisible legs.

The same happens with cars speeding away, the axles gradually get lower and the wheels vanish until it appears as if the car is gliding along its body. Such is the case on plane surfaces, the lowest parts of objects receding from a given point of observation necessarily disappear before the highest.”  ~ Eric Dubay, Flat Earth Conspiracy


“Although the Sun is at all times above and parallel to the Earth’s surface, he appears to ascend the firmament from morning until noon, and to descend and sink below the horizon at evening. This arises from a simple and everywhere visible law of perspective. A flock of birds, when passing over a flat or marshy country, always appears to descend as it recedes; and if the flock is extensive, the first bird appears lower, or nearer to the horizon than the last.

The farthest light in a row of lamps appears the lowest, although each one has the same altitude. Bearing these phenomena in mind, it will easily be seen how the Sun, although always parallel to the surface of the Earth, must appear to ascend when approaching, and descend after leaving the meridian or noon-day position.” -Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, “Earth Not a Globe, 2nd Edition” (85)

Clouds at distance appear to be going down on the horizon.

Same with the Sun. Yet it is really just following a circle away.

676 thoughts on “# 17 If A Flat Earth, Why Does the Sun Go Down?

  1. Brian Johnston July 23, 2017 at 6:28 am Reply

    My last comment should read helical not elliptical. 2 times
    I saw my mistake as soon as it was posted


    • FactYouAll July 24, 2017 at 10:37 pm Reply

      Thanks for the clarification. I have an experiment that almost anyone can do, that might help understand the scenario you describe: earth (& planets) circling around the sun, which itself is moving (in some direction and fashion).

      If a person (Bob) was to take a ball attached to a string, with the other end of the string attached to a portable power drill. Held by a person standing in one place, the drill could be turned on, and the ball would circle around the drill chuck. A stationary observer near bob should see a ball traveling in a circle; an ordinary basic movement pattern.

      Now let the person with the drill begin walking down the sidewalk. A person walking behind them might still see a simple circle. However, a person standing across the street, should see the ball follow a much more complex pattern; like a screw thread, or perhaps helical pathway.

      So what do we have? the ball is always circling the drill at all times; yet the observed pattern at points away from the drill differs. This has to do with relative observation and relative motions involved. By walking, a second motion, independent to the drill motor rotating, becomes part of the multi-dimensional reality of other observers. What Bob sees is accurate, and what others see is also accurate, from their respective frames of reference.

      The compound motion is not simply a result of the circular force spinning the ball, just like something that orbits the sun. If the sun is also moving in some direction, it has no relation to the spinning (orbit) of the ball (earth). Separate actions are due to separate causes. A single over-arching action is not what leads to the effects observed by anyone besides Bob.

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  2. FactYouAll July 24, 2017 at 3:23 am Reply


    Re: “What keeps all these planets in an elliptical orbit?”

    Well, what keeps you and all objects situated in place upon the surface of earth?


    • Michael July 24, 2017 at 6:23 am Reply

      Good question: What does keep everything in place? Cos it sure as hell can’t be gravity on a flat earth.

      Would be interested in yr answer as the whole FE theory founders on this.


  3. Brian Johnston July 24, 2017 at 8:58 am Reply

    Gravity keeps us on the earth. Problem
    No one knows what gravity is
    Question should read what keeps planets following earth in a helical orbit (My mistake originally)
    Added to that the planets are not all in the same helical direction
    It is like a complex murder cas0e. Something is missing


  4. worldpoop July 24, 2017 at 9:38 am Reply

    “…that nothing is displaced as a body moves through a vacuum is instantly disproved by an observation of a comet’s tail.” Observing the tail suggests many more possibilities than vacuous wind, wherein the real reason for a comet’s tail is knowable and even observable. This is, in fact, a fairly good example of poor intuition, that to observe the tail must mean that matter is displaced precisely by its movement in a vacuum. It is an arbitrary conclusion, much like “a bullet being small must mean that it is harmless” is an arbitrary conclusion. Undisciplined reasoning is not useful to YOU. It is certainly not in defense of God — it is, in a sense, in offense to God and the truth. Again, you can understand a vacuum yourself, using a vacuum that you make yourself.


  5. Robert Post July 26, 2017 at 9:12 am Reply

    So one should be able to observe the sun with a good telescope once we see the sun disappear because of the perspective, because the sun doesn’t go below the horizon but just gets further from the observer. Is this what you observe?


  6. Brian Johnston July 28, 2017 at 3:14 am Reply

    At midday the sun is overhead and say one millions miles above us
    As the sun moves to the west in a ‘circular’ direct on a flat earth it should not go anywhere near the horizon. For goodness sake the radius of the earth is only about 4,000 miles.
    I would have to say that suggesting the sun nearing the horizon and appearing to disappear as having something to do with the law of perspective is nonsense

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    • HappyBirthday July 28, 2017 at 2:42 pm Reply

      Brian, altho I agree with you, I do think that flat earth ststs say that the sun is only 5,000 miles overhead. The geometry using those numbers still gives us a fairly large angle from a viewer, let’s say, in the United States, to a setting sun, which means that you would never see the sun disappear. If it just moves away from the viewer it should appear smaller, as flat earthers tell us, but we have very powerful telescopes that should easily bring it back into view. I’ve yet to see any video made that does anything like this. How many pieces of real evidence do they need? That one should be a gimme.


      • Steviant July 28, 2017 at 10:19 pm

        The answer is obvious, the sun has a lampshade. Lampshade-theory also explains how the sun can cast physically impossible shadows on the Earth’s surface. You may think the idea of a magic lampshade sounds absurd, but if you allow for a flying spotlight 5000 miles high circling above a flat Earth without a viable power source to explain its glowing or any explanation of its motive force, then you can’t discount the idea of a shape shifting lampshade, as you’ve long ago entered the realm of magical fantasy.


      • HappyBirthday July 28, 2017 at 10:35 pm

        Steviant, of course, the magic lampshade. Why didn’t I think of it? Also take note of the self illuminating moon. Fireflies, perhaps?
        It’s all just a giant distraction.


      • Steviant July 29, 2017 at 2:53 am

        Lampshade theory also explains solar eclipses without needing to invoke a third opaque mega-sun black body


      • HappyBirthday July 29, 2017 at 3:33 am

        Steve. Oh right. The third dark planet thing that causes those pesky eclipses. But what in the world is that lampshade made from? Clouds, gasses, hemp?


      • Steviant July 29, 2017 at 3:42 am

        The great thing about flat earth theory is that we don’t need to explain anything. At this point I just start calling you a NASA shill and turn to ad-hominem attacks. The lampshade is made of magic and that’s all you need to know, like how the sun itself is made of magic glowy stuff, the colour of its light suggests it’s probably some kind of hydrogen burning torch but there doesn’t appear to be a fuel supply. I guess it’s piped in from behind the firmament.


      • HappyBirthday July 29, 2017 at 1:25 pm

        Obviously you’re a paid shill! Trolling this fact based website just to stir up trouble.
        So the sun is made up of “glowy stuff”? And here I thought it was a giant electric light bulb plugged into an extension cord from God’s house.


  7. Brian Johnston July 30, 2017 at 1:25 am Reply

    Steviant: Magic, glowy stuff, suggests, probably, doesn’t appear, I guess. You are here just to tease and torment with your deviant nonsense. Go find another site


    • Steviant July 30, 2017 at 7:05 am Reply

      Please, rather than labelling me a deviant and telling me to go away, explain what powers the glowing of the flying spotlight, or what force holds it in its circling path, or what force prevents it crashing to earth, or how it casts physically impossible shadows without a lampshade, and how it illuminates and casts shadows on the underside of clouds at sunrise and sunset, without invoking magic.


  8. Brian Johnston July 30, 2017 at 1:38 am Reply

    Happy Birthday: 5,000 miles seems a bit close
    The sun ‘rises’ and causes a shadow which becomes increasingly shorter as midday approaches. The sun on a FE travels in a circle? Therefore as the shadow decreases it would/should also move in a circle opposing the sun’s circle. I don’t think it does because the sun travels in a straight line?


    • HappyBirthday July 30, 2017 at 11:43 pm Reply

      Brian, from all I’ve read about the flat earth, those who seem to have the most to say, write that the earth and sun are 5,000 miles from the earth, and they are some 300 miles in diameter. And that they both travel in a circuit around the circumference of the FE, but not along the edge (Antarctica), but on a circuit maybe halfway between the center (north pole) and the outer rim.

      I agree that the shadows that we see do not make sense with this scenario. The only places that the sun would be directly overhead are those along that particular circuit.

      But what I have never been given an explanation for is how a sun that is 5,000 over the earth and runs along a circuit and never “sets” can create night. We never see the sun shrinking into a dot, but it disappears as its full size over the horizon as it sets. And when you do the math using FE numbers, you get a considerable size angle from the POV of a viewer to the sun (what did i figure, 20 degrees?) at sunset if you live in the United States. That’s way too big of an angle to not be able to “bring it back” into view with a good telescope.

      So, once again, if any FE enthusiasts have a video of that phenomenon, similar to the ones I see posted with ships on the ocean, please post them.

      And, I would challenge anyone who is making the ships/ocean video with a telescope, to continue following that ship with your telescope. At some point, it will totally disappear, and it’s not because of the atmosphere obscuring the view. It’s from the curvature of the earth.


      • FactYouAll July 31, 2017 at 3:27 am

        HB – from the cartoonish “simulations” one sees of the sun above the FE, there is a common part where the sun’s path shifts between the FE versions of the equator and the 2 tropics, so that these latitudes get their 12 hours of day and night twice a year.

        However, they never can quite explain what causes these expanding and contracting shifts in the sun’s path. Or even the force needed to reverse between expansion and contraction (on an annual and everlasting time frame).

        Conservation of momentum? – who needs it!!!!

        p.s. – do you think there might be a psychedelic lampshade option for the sun?


  9. Brian Johnston August 1, 2017 at 12:52 am Reply

    The sun never changes in size? Answer: The distance between overhead and either sunrise or sunset is a small distance relative to how far away the sun is.


  10. djalicex August 14, 2017 at 9:37 am Reply

    I once took my girlfriend up in a hot air balloon to watch the Sun Set and we watched it disappear under the horizon. Your coin analogy only works if the camera/viewer is below the plain of the table/Earth. From my vantage point so far high up I should be able to see the Sun forever if it didn’t dip below the horizon. It would also get smaller and smaller but it does not. The next morning it rose in the East. How could it get from West to East while the sky is in total darkness? My friends in Australia can see the Sun when I cannot (while Skypping them). This would not be possible on a flat earth. As long as you are above the plain of the ground you should be able to see the Sun no matter how far away it is. This does not happen.


    • HappyBirthday August 14, 2017 at 5:04 pm Reply

      djalicex, correct. Try not to confuse them with reality, ie, science.
      Because science is a fraud, invented by the Jesuits. Photos of what we see with our eyes ought to give them pause. But seriously, flat earth is impossible for so many reasons. Perhaps the earth scientists could weigh in if they feel so inclined. Let’s keep our bibles out of the conversation. They are far too inaccurate to tell us what shape the earth is.
      I’ve been wondering for some time now if this whole flat earth nonsense is just a ploy to see how gullible the public really is. Methinks so.


      • Brolyn August 14, 2017 at 7:29 pm

        What I did the sun news not a object but just light itself. Kind of like how the light shining off the sun only covers half the earth at a time “on the flat earth model” what if the reason we see the sun disappearing is just because that is how far away we can see “sun light”


  11. Brolyn August 14, 2017 at 7:33 pm Reply

    What If the sun news not a object but just light itself. Kind of like how the light shining off the sun only covers half the earth at a time “on the flat earth model” what if the reason we see the sun disappearing is just because that is how far away we can see “sun light” sorry I’m half cut ATM but I have had this conversation many times


  12. Dan August 23, 2017 at 12:51 pm Reply

    If the sun disappears into the horizon from perspective then it would shrink into a dot. In the morning it would start as a dot and grow as it moved closer and shrink as it moved away. But in reality the size of the sun doesn’t change so it isn’t moving closer or farther away.

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    • Brolyn August 23, 2017 at 10:11 pm Reply

      What if the sun was not a object but just light. Why if the reason we see the sun disappearing is just because that is how for we can see sun light


  13. Brian Johnston August 24, 2017 at 12:07 pm Reply

    I do not believe the earth is spinning at 1,000mph

    We have to resolve this first


    • worldpoop August 24, 2017 at 6:05 pm Reply

      All the physics and math is available to you to study, and everything relative to this “belief” is verifiable with simple irrefutable experiments in your own home.


  14. adamgreggs@gmail.com August 29, 2017 at 5:52 am Reply

    Theres a video on youtube that will CLEARLY show how the sun DOES NOT set and it really is all down to perspective thanks to the superzoom Nikon p900. Go to youtube and type Nikon p900 sunset.
    My jaw dropped,the sun is nearly set (You can see about a third of it, then when the camera zooms in, THE SUN MAGICALLY LEAVES SUNSET AND RISES BACK UP HIGH in the sky and you are able to see air between the whole sun and horizon. CASE SOLVED, cant beat evidence

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    • worldpoop August 29, 2017 at 8:20 pm Reply

      Sure looks like a sunset to me:


    • Graynomad August 29, 2017 at 9:14 pm Reply

      What the heck are you talking about adamgreggs, it clearly sets in that video.

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    • FactYouAll August 31, 2017 at 3:09 am Reply


      Please cite a single video for us to watch, rather than a search pattern that has several results.

      Please also confirm that you are talking about a video where during a deep zoom, that the sun remains a circle image above the horizon, and disappears into a small dot before completely disappearing.


  15. Brian Johnston August 30, 2017 at 6:44 am Reply

    If the sun moved in a circle above a FE it would never go near the horizon


    • Steviant August 30, 2017 at 7:27 am Reply

      Brian Johnston — you’re forgetting about the Law of Perspective which states that when objects recede away from an observer over the surface of the Earth they will only appear to fall below the horizon to people with an IQ greater than their shoe size.

      According to the Law of Perspective as the IQ of an observer approaches zero, the likelihood of stupidity-induced-hallucinations causing the observer to believe that objects are shrinking towards a point wher they inexplicably become invisible instead of seeing the object falling below the horizon increases to nearly 100 percent.

      At least, that’s how I understand it.


      • HappyBirthday August 30, 2017 at 4:50 pm

        If the sun “inexplicably” becomes invisible then you should easily be able to see it again thru a good telescope. But I’ve yet to see anyone try that. It’s not that far away and you can get a powerful telescope to bring it back.


  16. adamgreggs@gmail.com August 30, 2017 at 7:54 am Reply

    Ha Ha ,what is it with trolls and shills when you talk flat earth, its pretty OBVIOUS the sun is not 93 Million miles away and neither is it a ball of fire (You got to be stupid to believe that) How does a ball of fire feed plants (Photosynthesis) ,give me vitamins and charge water (Surya chikitsa)? What a burning ball of fire? OK, so why doesnt it look like a ball of fire in amateur superzoom videos only Official CGI ? Then theres the holographic moon, thats been recorded many times DISSOLVING OR VANISHING into thin air, ALL the clips ive seen show a FULL moon literally vanishing or fizzling away as though its a process after the full moon. Is that why we call it a New moon? because it is just that A NEW MOON. Oh and why did the latest eclipse go the wrong direction and why is a eclipse in 7 years going to go the opposite direction of the last one? Also were told stars are suns millions of light years away lol , WHY DONT THEY LOOK ANYTHING LIKE SUNS ? and why can we zoom in millions of light years away?


    • FactYouAll August 31, 2017 at 3:02 am Reply


      a ball of fire? – who uses those words besides yourself? BTW, what causes the light of the sun in your view, anyways?

      Photosynthesis — scientists understand this process; they even know artificial light isn’t as good as sun light. As far as vitamins, I think you and I both know the Flintstones give us vitamins.

      Oh and why did the latest eclipse go the wrong direction and why is a eclipse in 7 years going to go the opposite direction of the last one? — Well, the eclipse went in the direction it was said it would be progressing across the US. Do you claim it didn’t have that appearance?

      Also were told stars are suns millions of light years away lol , — Actually, the calculated distance to the sun from earth is 93 million miles (rounded).
      WHY DONT THEY LOOK ANYTHING LIKE SUNS? — The next nearest star is about 4.3 light years from Earth. That is about 300 billion times farther away than our sun; makes sense they would be smaller.

      why can we zoom in millions of light years away? — I give up, what are you asking about?


  17. adamgreggs@gmail.com August 30, 2017 at 2:46 pm Reply

    I would like to hear a scientific explanation please , just answer the questions WITHOUT resorting to “Ahh your stupid , i hope you dont have kids ” yadda yadda . They are questions that YOU HAVE TO HAVE A ANSWER FOR, if you cant answer them then maybe you need to ask yourself WHY. Its not ‘Rocket’ science. Heres another one – WHY DO STARS DISSAPEAR WHEN WE GO HIGH UP IN THE SKY? Both official and amateur footage shows the same, WHY? Shouldnt they become clearer seen as were nearing them and theres less light interferance? So why or how can they TOTALLY DISSAPEAR ?? We have been blinded from common sense , people need to learn the art of CRITICAL THINKING instead of believing everything their told or taught by their MASTERS. You have a brain. USE IT, and theres NO CURVITURE … DO THE MATHS AND TEST IT , or simply believe what your told, 8 inches per square mile she said , nope its not there


    • HappyBirthday August 30, 2017 at 9:40 pm Reply

      Adam. A very little research will give you a good answer. You definitely can see stars from space. Look it up.


    • HappyBirthday August 30, 2017 at 11:02 pm Reply

      Adam, here’s an excellent blog on the topic: http://embracetheball.blogspot.com/2016/12/eight-inches-per-mile-squared.html


    • Steviant August 30, 2017 at 11:24 pm Reply

      Stars don’t disappear when you reach space.

      Photos of satellites, Earth and other planets and The Sun have their exposure times adjusted so that you can see the object being photographed which is much brighter than the stars. If the exposure time were adjusted to see stars the foreground object would look like a spotlight shining into the camera.

      This is a basic rule of photography, a single photo can’t have a very bright object and a very dim one next to each other without being doctored together from two separate photos.

      The human eye has greater dynamic range than any camera film or sensor available to consumers which makes this counterintuitive, but there’s no rule that says the universe is obligated to be intuitive to human beings.


    • worldpoop August 31, 2017 at 2:36 am Reply

      Please provide the footage and its “official” source. More to the matter, please provide the math you speak of.


  18. adamgreggs@gmail.com August 30, 2017 at 3:46 pm Reply

    Good Joke:
    How do we believe earths moving furiously in 4 directions at millions of miles a hour yet we feel NOTHING?
    A: Non measurable magical forces called Gravity and inertia

    LMAO , the stuff people believe without question is REDICULOUS


    • Steviant August 30, 2017 at 11:13 pm Reply

      Your sense of the “rediculous” is as keen as your sense of humour.

      Once you’ve presented your theory that explains the motions of all observable objects in the universe, and it has passed every scientific test thrown at it for two hundred years, you’ll be qualified to ridicule the theory of gravity.

      Of course… you don’t have a theory of motion or anything else for that matter because you’re a flat earther and flat earthers haven’t contributed to science in any meaningful way ever.


  19. adamgreggs@gmail.com August 31, 2017 at 5:24 am Reply

    What a load of poo, i have much to say nut im not even going to reply, Youtube ‘Nikon p900 Mars’ … If you think we can land on that light in the sky, well its just funny. Bye


  20. Brian Johnston September 3, 2017 at 12:21 am Reply

    If the sun moved in a circle over a flat earth it would never move from and to the horizon.

    The sun ‘rises’ in the east and ‘sets’ in the west. That folks is a straight line


    • arnolde September 11, 2017 at 1:44 am Reply

      and i experience something totally different in reality , and i know when im spinning 5mph never mind 8million, Water on a spinning 8 million mph ball but that lake hasnt got a ripple?? yet the moons gravity causes sea tides (no tides in lakes or resevoirs or rivers) and earths gravity magically keeps the moon locked Thousands of miles away . Hmmm


      • FactYouAll September 12, 2017 at 6:01 am

        arnolde – and just what keeps you locked to the surface of the earth?

        BTW – 8 million – really???


  21. Marj September 11, 2017 at 10:28 am Reply

    CIf the Earth is flat and the sun travels in a circle above flat Earth, then a telescope would bring the sun into view, even in the middle of the night.


  22. worldpoop September 13, 2017 at 8:25 pm Reply

    Learn. Basic. Physics. Go to the library, get a book. This isn’t worth dignifying with an answer because it is so clearly written by someone who never learned basic science. By basic, I mean, laws of gravity and inertia, their relation to mass, etc etc.. The very, very specific MATH. Things you can verify with simple intuitive experiments in your own backyard.

    It’s silly — it sounds silly — to argue against basic, proven, provable facts like the law of gravity. Opinions are one thing, but facts are another.

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  23. no spam September 29, 2017 at 10:55 pm Reply

    Mt Ranier casting a shadow on clouds demonstrates that the sun is in fact lower in the sky at dawn.


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  24. Dan October 31, 2017 at 5:38 pm Reply

    Not sure whether to laugh or cry! Laugh it is…. LOL

    Liked by 1 person

  25. Shane Buck November 6, 2017 at 11:05 am Reply


    Just following up as I didn’t hear back from you, sorry to email you again. I noticed your page aplanetruth.info/17-if-a-flat-earth-why-does-the-sun-go-down/comment-page-1/ links to http://www.timeanddate.com. Unfortunately, that site isn’t very accessible for the sight impaired. Would you consider adding a link to a more accessible version like http://www.thetimenow.com which is WCAG 2.0 compatible?Date and Time – All Time Zones and Stuff

    Also, if you ever want to see how accessible a page is, I recommend wave.webaim.org. It is really helpful.

    Shane Buck


  26. Dan November 21, 2017 at 11:51 pm Reply

    Ummm…. Your example is in no way related to your theory. Supposedly in a FE, the sun is hovering ABOVE us. In your example you placed a coin on a table and moved it horizontally away from you. This is in no way a valid explanation of the sun setting past the horizon. Try harder buddy.


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