Okay, have at it.
Truthers vs. Shills. What Say You?
|Title||Author||Publication Date||Type of Publication||Pages||Date Added|
|Adrian Galilio||Lady Blount (Zeteo)||1989-01-01||Book||153||2010-01-01|
|Can You Speak Venusian? (excerpt)||Sir Patrick Moore||1972-01-01||Book||10||2010-01-01|
|Earth Not A Globe! An Experimental Inquiry into the True Figure of the Earth||Samuel Rowbotham (Parallax)||1865/01/01||Book||235||2014-02-07|
|Eccentric Lives and Peculiar Notions (except)||John Mitchell||1984-01-01||Book||3||2010-01-01|
|Foundations of Many Generations||E. Eschini||1940-01-01||Book||50||2014-02-07|
|Heaven and Earth||Gabrielle Henriete||1956-01-01||Book||77||2014-02-07|
|Is Newtonian Astronomy True?||William Carpenter||1895/05/01||Book||50||2014-02-07|
|Kings Dethroned||Gerard Hickson||1922-01-01||Book||110||2014-02-07|
|Midnight Sun, The (Handwritten)||Albert Smith (Zetetes)||unknown||Book||180||2014-02-07|
|Museum of Science and Art (Vol. 1)||Dionysius Lardner||1854/01/01||Book||458||2014-02-07|
|Sea-Earth Globe and and its Monstrous Hypothetical Motions, The||Albert Smith (Zetetes)||1905-04-01||Book||44||2014-02-07|
|Square Pegs: Americans Who Dared to be Different, The||Irving Wallace||1957-01-01||Book||364||2014-02-07|
|Zetetic Astronomy||Lady Blount (Zeteo), Albert Smith (Zetetes)||1904-01-01||Book||80||2014-02-07|
|The Enlightenment of the World||John G. Abizaid||1912-08-06||Book||21||2016-28-07|
– Albert Einstein, The Evolution of Physics, p.212 (p.248 in original 1938 ed.)
“In whatever way or manner may have occurred this business, I must still say that I curse this modern theory of Cosmogony, and hope that perchance there may appear, in due time, some young scientist or genius, who will pick up courage enough to upset this universally disseminated delirium of lunatics.”
– Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
“In the Middle Ages people believed that the earth was flat, for which they had at least the evidence of their senses: we believe it to be round, not because as many as 1 percent of us could give physical reasons for so quaint a belief, but because modern science has convinced us that nothing that is obvious is true, and that everything that is magical, improbable, extraordinary, gigantic, microscopic, heartless, or outrageous is scientific.”
– George Bernard Shaw
“Earth is a realm, it is not a planet. It is not an object, therefore, it has no edge. Earth would be more easily defined as a system environment. Earth is also a machine, it is a Tesla coil. The sun and moon are powered wirelessly with the electromagnetic field (the Aether). This field also suspends the celestial spheres with electo-magnetic levitation. Electromag levitation disproves gravity because the only force you need to counter is the electromagnetic force, not gravity. The stars are attached to the FIRMAMENT.”
– Nikola Tesla
“While I was thinking of this problem in my student years, I came to know the strange result of Michelson’s experiment. Soon I came to the conclusion that our idea about the motion of the Earth with respect to the ether is incorrect, if we admit Michelson’s null result as a fact. This was the first path which led me to the special theory of relativity. Since then I have come to believe that the motion of the Earth cannot be detected by any optical experiment, though the Earth is revolving around the Sun.”
– Albert Einstein, “How I Created the Theory of Relativity?” http://inpac.ucsd.edu/students/courses/winter2012/physics2d/einsteinonrelativity.pdf
“The theory of relativity is a mass of error and deceptive ideas violently opposed to the teachings of great men of science of the past and even to common sense … The theory, wraps all these errors and fallacies and clothes them in magnificent mathematical garb which fascinates, dazzles and makes people blind to the underlying errors. The theory is like a beggar clothed in purple whom ignorant people take for a king. Its exponents are very brilliant men, but they are metaphysicists rather than scientists. Not a single one of the relativity propositions has been proved.”
– Nikola Tesla
Like many others, I entered the flat Earth debate because I wanted to debunk what I considered an insane theory for the sake of my conspiracy-minded friends. I was going to save legitimate flat earthers from a seemingly obvious government Psychological Operation (PSYOP) meant to forever discredit “conspiracy theorists” everywhere. I truly believed that the leading flat earthers were likely government agents who wanted to discredit, by way of guilt by association, anyone who doubted the moon landings, 9-11, Sandy Hook, the Boston Bombing, vaccinations, etc.
From politicians to even “conspiracy theorists,” and across all political spectrums, nearly everyone derides flat earthers. For example, Obama preached, “We don’t have time for a meeting of the Flat Earth Society,” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB9–MF0tx0); derogatorily referred to Republican candidates as people “who would have been founding members of the Flat Earth Society” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rsz3uLxTwQs); and then again made certain to tell us how much “scientific evidence” supports the spherical Earth (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-dXBsZzR24). Obama has now publicly referenced the flat Earth on four separate occasions as a shameful belief.
Unbelievably, Neil deGrasse Tyson even said that influential flat earthers were dangerous to democracy and “harmful to the health, the wealth, and the security of our citizenry” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHBZkek8OSU).
On the other side, you have “independent” Joe Rogan (a former moon landings skeptic) who now repeatedly makes fun of flat earthers “obsessing over nonsense,” conservative Alex Jones who referred to the flat Earth theory as “clearly ridiculous” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmOB36NuvDw).
We learned in Kindergarten (it’s a requirement) that Columbus discovered we live on a globe despite the fools who doubted him. Children are taught that the peasants were just too dumb to understand that we live on a globe (is it coincidental that an official American holiday centers around the globe model?). Only crazy and dangerous imbeciles would ever consider the arguments of the flat Earth now? You can see boats disappear behind a curvature? You can see the curvature from an airplane or high mountain? Boats would fall off the edge of the Earth, right? And all of those photos of the Earth, how can anyone doubt the globe, NASA, and all of the other “official” space agencies?
That’s where I began – to expose once and for all the silliness and supposed PSYOP origins of the flat earth movement. I continually researched, considered, pondered, and somewhat hoped to uncover the falsehoods of the flat earth movement. After several weeks and dozens of hours later, it didn’t happen; instead, I found many valid arguments in favor of the flat Earth – arguments that were NOT being answered effectively by mainstream science – in fact, I and many others were severely ridiculed for even asking questions. Since when is asking questions considered “stupid”?
After over a year of incessant investigation, I believe the evidence supporting the flat Earth is far more compelling and clearly exceeds the evidence supporting a spinning-vortexing ball Earth zooming at 2 million mph chasing after the Sun. As you will see, the evidence in support of a globe Earth is mostly scant, intellectually vacuous, refutable, and often based on little more than name calling and “scientific” conformity.
I just did this wonderful two hours with Paul and Mindy of the excellent website Pincecone Utopia and World Beyond Belief. We cover a lot of FE topics. The Great 2017 FE Awakening continues. Enjoy
ED Dubay, the self-proclaimed, self-promoting, won’t talk about Jesuits, won’t promote everyone else’s FE work, calls everyone shills, puts out his YT video of one red Roman Soldier (Him the sole FE truther) against all the other aliens he is slaying, says he’s solely into “just getting the Flat Earth story out”,
Hey Eric Dubay, Why Didn’t You Mention Your Freemason Family As Well?
…is now actually including another’s work, Flat Earth Consequence…a newbie to the FE movement to boot, with only 1,000 subscibers and a few videos. Yea, Eric, you’re helping others get the word out too~ It only took you from NOV. 2014 until April 2017 for you to help others in promoting FE~ Yea ED keep spreading the word.
The same ED who took $100,000 from the National Vaccine Injury Compensation (NVIC) for injuries claimed due to Gulles-Barre syndrome vaccination..though he is a vegan and does not vaccinate…directly after months spent in Washington D.C., directly before he released his FE book. HMMMM.
The same “i’m just trying to get the Fe truth out” who starts another website named….wait for it…wait for it…..Ericdubay.com…..!!! You can’t make this shit up!
Anyway, ED, you’re NOW helping spread the word, hope you can stay relevant, and maybe you can promote my book now as well…since all you are really interested in is getting the “FE Truth Out”~
(And ED Dubay, dude, you don’t have to use sex to promote FE, sends the wrong message about FE credibility, dude~)
Enjoy, this is a really well done interview.