Start Here

~ Comments, submissions and constructive critiques all welcome as long as it is civil. 

This site asks many more questions than it answers. Common sense and our own eyes tell our brains that the Sun and Moon move across our horizons each and every day and that the Earth is a plane, as seen from standing on any beach in the world and looking out over the ocean as well as from an airplane.

Common Sense and reason tell us the Earth is stationary and not rotating on her axis at and incredible 1,000 mph as well as orbiting around the Sun at some 1,000 mp/second traveling some 533 million miles each and every year while our Solar System is then traveling around the Milky Way at over 500,000 mph, as science claims it is.

Why would “they” perpetuate such a massive lie for so long?

Literally to keep our individual powers in check in that we are the center of the universe and all have the Kingdom of God within.

As Above, So Below.

200 Proofs Earth NOT a Globe

http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/08/200-proofs-earth-is-not-spinning-ball.html

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The Flammarion (1888). The image depicts a man crawling under the edge of the sky, depicted as if it were a solid hemisphere and plane earth, to look at the mysterious Empyrean beyond. The caption translates to “A medieval missionary tells that he has found the point where heaven and Earth meet…”

Since the end of the Dark Ages and the beginning of the Scientific Revolution, around the mid-1500’s, the world has been told, and believed, the Earth to be a globe.

The spheroid called Earth, spinning in a complete circle every 24 hours on it’s tilted access traveling at some 1,000 mph while yearly circumnavigating the Sun in one year traveling an additional 68,000 mph, or 1,000 mile per/second.

We are told by astronomy phycisists that our Sun Solar System travels around our Milky Way Galaxy at over 500,000 mph, while we are glued to Earth through gravity in a atmospheric cocoon that keeps all motion in sync with a rapidly spinning ball that we all live upon.

Yet the 500 year old story of a heliocentric solar system vs. the 3500 year story of a flat plane geocentric Earth began when the Vatican held all knowledge and book publishing just began so the masses could educate themselves in the 15th and 16th centuries.

From Copernicus to Galileo to Newton to Kepler, all validated “proven” science came from the Royal Society of London.

Starting with the Industrial Devolution , at the beginning of the 20th century, all school text books and teacher accreditation’s were founded and funded by Robber Baron’s, Rockefeller, JP Morgan, Ford et. al (Source)

After WWII, with the critical assistance of the Vatican “ratline” passports, the United States brought Nazi Rocketeer “Wunderkind”, Werhner Von Braun, into the country through Operation Paperclip.

Von Braun ran NASA’s Saturn rocket program for 25 years.  All feeds that came from the Moon on the alleged first Man on the Moon transmission came from one feed at NASA where all TV broadcasters had to copy from.

Since the 1960’s, when we entered the “space race” against our alleged arch enemy, Russia, during the cold war, NASA has provided us the narrative of our physical Earth, with every single picture and every single story, about what we have learned from the Cosmos through telescopes and space exploration.

“Maintain a lie or secret for one generation and the next generartion becomes easy pickings, particularly if the lie is echoed in school textbooks, TV cartoons, The History and Discovery Channels. Confuse one generation and the next will happily ingest the media gruel prepared for them.”     ~ Elana Freeland

Since the 1800’s, very few have challenged the Heliocentric theory because it is “settled science”.

Until now.

Our most basic cultural identities, of a global earth traveling around a central star, traveling around a galaxy amongst billions and billions of other galaxies, too far away to fathom, with their own planets and solar systems in the universe, is accepted common knowledge to all.

Yet, If one simply observes for themselves, without prejudice or belief, he/she would see a Sun and Moon traveling across the sky each day along a prescribed path from East to West.

We see the size of the Sun and Moon being relatively the same.

We feel no motion of an Earth traveling at 1,000 mph each and every day around a Sun traveling at 1,000 miles/second and over 500,000 mph around the Milky Way galaxy.

And no matter how high in a plane we are, we never see the curvature of the Earth, only a flat, level plane.

Only from NASA and Google Earth do we see any curvature, yet simple physics tells us we should.

The ancients called it a “Sunrise” and “Sunset” and we use that same language today, though we are told that these terms are incorrect in basic astronomical physics. No English teacher of proper usage of grammar, or any physicist, ever corrects this erroneous description of our “settled” knowledge as to the physics of a heliocentric Earth.

For over 3500 years many cultures including the ancient Summerians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Vedic Indians, Chinese and original Native Americans believed the earth to the center of all things in the Universe.

Additionally, the Bible is filled with references of a flat earth and firmament above in a closed system.

Once a generation is indoctrinated to a way of thinking, it is very easy for following generations to admit as fact what was once considered nonsensical.

If long term powers that be wanted to control world knowledge, to make the every man, women and child think and feel insignificant, and not hold the thought of a “Kingdom of God Within”, you would tell him he is only a very, very, very small part of a much bigger whole that he cannot possible comprehend or understand.

As Above, So Below

Alice goes down the rabbit hole.

This blog is an attempt to bring to those open-minded enough material to consider the possibility that we have been brainwashed completely and successfully for some 500 years!

The site is explore, question, inform and solve hidden truths about whether we are a plane or a planet, whether the Moon and Sun move across our skies as it appears, or that what we see is not really what is happening “out there” but we hold our own Sun, Moon and stars within each of us.

So let’s go chase some rabbits down the hole with open minds and insatiable curiosity for truth and higher consciousness …..

133 thoughts on “Start Here

  1. reed June 14, 2015 at 6:59 pm Reply

    Thanks for the website. I am new to this idea. Does the plane model have an explanation for extended daylight hours in southern South America?

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  2. silver June 18, 2015 at 11:10 pm Reply

    Informative site…however…I’m still integrating this information and doing my own research after viewing Eric’s interviews on the flat earth. I recently read Norman Vaughn’s book, “With Bryd at the Bottom of the World.” In this book Vaughn talks about the light and dark periods of the Antarctica sun in the course of his story. He lived on Antarctica from 1928-1930. How do you explain his personal experience?

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  3. eddie July 1, 2015 at 1:32 am Reply

    So ,tonight they are saying that Tonight Jupiter and Venus will appear to have merged in the Western horizon, giving the appearance of a “superstar”. The sight will be visible in North America in that direction just after sunset… Some theorize that tonight’s rare planetary alignment was responsible for the “Star of Bethlehem”…What do you think about that?

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  4. Murph August 17, 2015 at 9:20 pm Reply

    Just a question and a few thoughts: Have you ever considered sending objects into (near) space yourself using a relatively cheap balloon kit? The curvature of the Earth is very visible from heights above ft 80,000 ft or so.

    Here is an example from a Coors marketing campaign: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzF6scSZo40

    Here is an amateur video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9ZtX6Lkc9c

    But I feel like you’re the kind of guy that won’t believe it unless you see it for yourself, so I recommend purchasing a kit, through the following link or somewhere else, or even making your own.

    Here’s where you can buy your own kit: http://sentintospace.com/

    Instead of firing off reasons that the mountains of evidence is incorrect, I recommend trying to prove yourself wrong. I believe in challenging even the mostly deep seated understanding of how the world works. Periodic evaluation is where innovation and new understanding comes from. However, many of your ideas invalidates technology which you use each day. That would mean that even simple technicians and telecom and internet companies are a part of an incredible conspiracy.

    Have a nice day!

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    • jwlpeace August 18, 2015 at 7:16 pm Reply

      remember, any personal experiments will be ridiculed as amateur and biased.. remember, like 9/11, all are compartmentalized in a “need to know” basis in the hierarchical of the NWO power structure. and yes, the top are all in it to some degree. ex. in freemasons, initiates are shown that freemasons ran NASA and even placed a flag on the moon. when they get up in the 30+ degrees they are told the world is flat, etc.. only the few get to know the whole truth…unless you read this blog:)

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    • Esé December 24, 2015 at 6:45 pm Reply

      The Coors experiment uses a wide-angle lens that distorts the image. Look at the degree of curvature of the steel fence in the background at 0:10. Presumably the top of the fence is level. Compare to the horizon of the earth at 5:00, at an 80,000 foot elevation. Same curvature.

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    • Ted May 14, 2016 at 6:08 pm Reply

      The videos showing horizon curvature at altitude also show curvature when ON THE GROUND. The cameras use a fish-eye, curved lens, i.e. GoPro.

      Here is what the horizon really looks like from a non-curved lens, above 100,000 feet. Flat, eye level horizon. Undeniable evidence for flatness.

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    • Bryan July 28, 2016 at 8:15 am Reply

      That amateur video of the balloon actually looks like it shows the horizon going from concave to convex and then to flat, depending on what angle the camera is. Watch at the end . Fisheye?

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  5. Tycho September 15, 2015 at 8:47 pm Reply

    Murph August 17, 2015 at 9:20 pm Reply

    Yeah, we can see the curvature of that can too. Huh.

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  6. Stefan Nicholas (@Sanctu_Spiritu) September 28, 2015 at 5:28 pm Reply

    Shalom, have thoughts about a flat earth since 2012. These thoughts are connected to a flat, 2-dimensional universe which some scientists say is possible

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  7. Malcolm Hare October 2, 2015 at 3:17 pm Reply

    If you watch the film about the “x ” prize spaceship1 designed by Bert Rutan, you will see the curvature of the earth from 300,000 feet or approx 55 miles.

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    • jwlpeace October 3, 2015 at 4:19 pm Reply

      please read the first three “reasons to doubt heliocentric theory”,if you have not, all “photo-shopped” images from only one source, ever, NASA, is imagery, and just that.

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    • Optimus Prime November 2, 2016 at 10:04 am Reply

      Unfortunately Malcom Hare this footage you are referring too was made with a fish eye lenses which creates the illusion of a curvature. Nice try but do your homework. Smh

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  8. Rob B October 25, 2015 at 7:13 am Reply

    You said “We feel no motion of an Earth traveling at 1,000 mph each and every day around a Sun traveling at 1,000 miles/second and over 500,000 mph around the Milky Way galaxy.”

    This point can be easily explained. Our bodies don’t feel velocity they feel changes in velocity (acceleration).

    For example if you have ever driven a tractor at full speed (15 or so mph) you can feel every bump (accelerations in every direction) due to its rigid axles, but if you were riding in a high-end luxury sedan at 120 mph on a smooth road and you closed your eyes you wouldn’t know you were going that fast. So it’s not velocity but changes in velocity that we feel.

    The same holds true for airplanes…so cant “feel” that you are going 500 mph (turbulence would be an acceleration), but you can feel the plane climbing and building up to that speed.

    I am not denouncing your theories, as I feel we shouldn’t take everything for granted, I just wanted to inform you as to why we can’t feel the smooth motion of the earth.

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    • jwlpeace October 25, 2015 at 3:38 pm Reply

      Earth is not a car. there is no ‘exterior’ to deflect the wind speed one would feel if they were not surrounded in a car by metal and glass. Just like the ridiculous example of school’s explanation of water being held in by gravity using a water bucket swung around by a string in a circle. There is NO bucket holding water in and there is NO string called gravity. Gravity in Latin is simply called “weight”. Density, weight, and aerodynamics are all that is. the rest are made up lies to deceive, confuse and to make us feel small and insignificant.

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      • madmanwbluebox September 2, 2016 at 11:39 pm

        the wind is moving right along with the earth spinning, while 1000 mph may “sound” fast do some math and put it in its proper perspective of RPMs, I don’t know who taught you the spinning bucket trick but they must have been a moron. flat earth believers all say density but what “force” is giving density it’s density? and why do things fall down? why not up? or sideways? clearly just repeating “it’s just density ” doesn’t even begin to adequately refute mass bending space and time, (gravity as a force hasn’t been considered that since 1915, it’s funny when FE’ers are still arguing that one) which have been proven as facts. by observations, tests and experiments and of course math

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  9. FScott October 27, 2015 at 2:46 am Reply

    I have always wondered why our launch pads for “space rockets” were in Texas and Florida (and not the “North Pole”: such as Alaska; Ellesmere Island/ Greenland) and why when launched, they only go directly up for a short time and seem to veer to parallel with the surface of the planet. Also, it cannot be seen veering to parallel from the view point of the observer at the blast site; and when shown on the “news” later…all you see is a pinpoint image of the rocket and which you assume is on its trajectory with the heavens but you cannot know because of the viewpoint of the camera…But still; when in preschool and K-3rd grade, we are told to wash our hands after we use the toilet; however, your hands are the filthiest part of your body. WHY would you touch the cleanest part of your body (reproductive/creative) with the dirtiest part (hands, which have to touch everything? “Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one” -Albert Einstein-

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    • James Bourne (@BourneToRun) January 26, 2016 at 12:01 am Reply

      they start to veer parallel to earth precisely because its round…they are in a strait line, we are moving along an arc so it looks like theyre turning…

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  10. AJ December 24, 2015 at 3:20 am Reply

    The time and effort you put in to this is much appreciated.
    Thank you.

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  11. Gwyne Falo January 2, 2016 at 8:51 pm Reply

    Thank you for your site. I have a question. When a traveler says they have gone around the world, by plane, wouldn’t the airline pilots realize they have to return instead of going around the “globe”?

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    • jwlpeace January 2, 2016 at 10:45 pm Reply

      Just like on a record player, a disc spins. think of needle on the record player as a plane. it travels due East or West and comes full circle back to its origins. Also, you never hear of any around the world trips going North to South or vice versa, always E and W. Also, all undersea cables only travel East and West. hmmm.

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  12. Derek van bloemen January 3, 2016 at 12:49 pm Reply

    HNY. According to Wiki the Earth curves 8 inches times the miles and not miles squared. Can you recommend an ‘authority that defines it as miles squared.
    Also when you click on your name it goes to a school
    Regards

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  13. Tom January 10, 2016 at 11:52 pm Reply

    Please explain volcanic eruptions?

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  14. kingjameswriter1965 January 11, 2016 at 3:25 am Reply

    THANK you. I too am new to the flat earth fact and I am glad to see others who do also.

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  15. A friend in Colorado January 20, 2016 at 5:55 am Reply

    Hi, I’m new to all of this and find it fascinating. Thanks for all the info and work you put into this. My question is, what’s in outer space? Or does outer space even exist at all? If we’re under a dome, what’s outside of it? Those questions are boggling my mind now. Thanks!

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  16. David January 24, 2016 at 2:12 am Reply

    The problem I have in this paradigm is the rising and setting of the sun and the phases of the moon. When theories conflict with my own eyes it causes a neuro-meltdown; that’s when I start hollering “B.S.”

    I can’t prove spherical or flat earth, but after a week of trying to debunk the flat earth theory I’m finding it more and more difficult. One thing I AM sure of, based on NASA’s photos, the moon landings are a hoax. Very suspicious to say the least..

    Shalom

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  17. CHRISTOPHER HUGHES January 25, 2016 at 5:06 pm Reply

    So none of you have ever been in an airplane flying west chasing the sunset, or flying east and getting a really shortened night? Maybe you took a wrong turn and fell off the edge?

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  18. Laura B. January 25, 2016 at 7:07 pm Reply

    1) Regarding the point in the video on compasses “pointing” North, rather than South: this is rather nonsensical as soon as you break it down logically! Whether the compass is pointing “North” or “South” is an arbitrary designation! Magnets have two poles — positive and negative, north and south, and attraction of metal particles is strongest at each pole. The positive pole of one magnet is attracted to the negative pole of another magnet, and vice versa. As you know, a compass has a freely suspended magnet inside. Commercially available compasses are marked so that the “north seeking” pole of the magnet in the compass ‘points’ north. You could just as easily make a compass that points South by designing the markings on the case differently. The fact is, one end ALWAYS points South. Moreover, a compass does not “point” to the north and south poles. A compass aligns with the magnetic field poles that flow from the south to the north pole. You may say, “a magnetic rod will point north, but it is not pointing south”. If the magnet were not equally and oppositely balanced in it’s alignment to the south pole as to the north pole, as this video seems to be implying, and was only being attracted to the north pole, it would actually be PULLED towards that pole, and that is not the case, as you yourself can verify with a bar magnet, a bowl of water, and a float for the magnet. You will see the the magnet is not PULLED to the north, it simply aligns its poles with the flow of the magnetic field. You can repeat the experiment flipping the compass so the it faces the other way, demonstrating not only that the earth has two magnetic poles, but that the compass aligns with the field, and doesn’t “point” north.
    2) The bit in the video about Columbus falling off the edge of the earth is also erroneous. Though this may have been taught in some school, it is wrong. When Columbus made his voyage, which was not to prove that the earth was round, but to find an alternate route to India, it was already accepted that the earth is a sphere. Columbus’ voyage was more about crossing a different ocean that investigating the shape of the earth. Washington Irving perpetrated this myth in his 1828 work of fiction, “The Life and Voyages of Christopher Columbus”.
    3) We DO see ocean’s going uphill and downhill! What do you think tides are? Moreover, oceans bulge all over the planet, as does the atmosphere, due to the centrifugal force that causes equatorial bulge.

    Ok I’m going to stop with the points that are wrong in the video now because they are too numerous. This is like watching someone give a presentation that they worked really hard on, but used tremendously unreliable and outdated sources for all their information.

    How do you explain man-made satellites that we have orbiting the planet? They are “falling” into the curvature of the earth, pulled by the earth’s gravity, but because the surface is curved, and their velocity balances the earth’s gravitational pull, they do not simply fall through the atmosphere and back to earth, or catapult out into space. I have watched satellites in orbit move through the sky, as I’m sure you have! Further, much of our modern technology functions using satellite technology.

    You’re clearly an intelligent person. Why don’t you put your considerable mental energy towards gaining a more in depth understanding of basic science and concepts like Occam’s razor rather than try and reinvent the wheel? Human beings are living longer, healthier, more connected lives thanks to science and technology. You are able to create this website and access the internet, and use electricity to power your computer, which was designed by scientists, in spite of your apparent deep mistrust of science in general. I myself am a biologist, and I can happily report that we scientists are not part of some kind of bizarre global conspiracy designed to make you feel powerless. We are regular folks, just like you, who want to understand life, our world, and our universe, and have found that the best method is to use systematically gathered, empirical evidence from research that can be replicated, which means that all of science is an open book to those who want to spend the time to learn about it and understand it. And with the right equipment, you can do your own experiments to prove to yourself that these things are true. There is no great deception. Just people trying to understand, as we have been trying to do since the beginning of time.

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    • jwlpeace January 25, 2016 at 7:46 pm Reply

      can u please explain to me why no one has shown a compass spinning in a circle when at the North Pole?

      On this website are many, many experiments and to “one-off” me with comments when you most likely just clicked on this site for the first time is disingenuous and to then ad hominen attack me for the mass body of work and post i’ve put forth is counter productive to further your understanding of what i’m tyring to present.

      It takes a long while to “unlearn” and I suggest you take some time, review this site in depth and let’s talk again.
      Thanx,

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      • Laura B. January 25, 2016 at 8:10 pm

        I am curious why you think that a compass would spin in a circle at the magnetic North pole. At the magnetic poles of the earth, the magnetic field actually goes INTO the surface of the earth. Here is what happens if you hold a compass at the magnetic pole. “If you are holding the compass horizontally at one of the magnetic poles, so that the magnetic field is perpendicular to the plane of the compass, then there will be no preferred direction for the needle to point. It may point in the last direction it was pointing as you walked up to the pole. It may turn until friction slows it down if the needle was spinning (you can get it spinning by using another magnet or by turning the compass and letting friction spin the needle up). If you are carrying anything magnetic at the same time, then the compass needle’s direction may point according to this other object’s magnetic field.

        If you hold the compass sideways, one end of the compass’s needle will point down into the earth, and the other will point up. If you hold the compass at some angle between horizontal and sideways (which is most ways of holding the compass, and it may be hard to get it exactly horizontal), then the needle will point along the direction which is lowest. Some compasses (the cheap ones) are built such that the needle is supported on a sharp pin; the compass needle has a hemispherical cup in the middle and the pin rests in the cup. The compass needle then may wobble around and dip up and down even if the compass itself is held flat. It may then dip and point down until the needle scrapes on the compass face or the needle rubs on the edge of the cup. More expensive water-filled compasses with special bearings won’t wobble like this and will behave as described above.” From https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=1328

        It was not my intention to attack you or your body of work. It truly makes me sad to see a bright individual having taken such a convoluted, confusing path to arrive at erroneous conclusions that fly in the face of centuries of empirical evidence. Just as I’m sure you find it sad that I ascribe to “convention”, and that I believe without a shadow of a doubt what my own senses coupled with the scientific method and mathematics can prove, which is that the earth is a sphere. I will certainly continue to read through your webpage, and am interested in continuing to discuss your ideas with you.

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    • Adam May 19, 2016 at 1:23 am Reply

      If you want to understand that you do not live on a sphere it is really quite simple and comes down to mathematics.

      Modern science contends that we live on a sphere with a circumference of 24,901 miles. The radius is then 3,959 miles. The formula then for calculating the “curvature” is 8″ x miles squared. So determining the “curvature” for a distance of 60 miles would be 8 x 60 x 60 which equals 28,800 inches or 2400 feet. So, this means anything 60 miles away from your current position would be hidden behind 2400 feet of curvature. In order to see anything that is 60 miles away from you, the object would have to be taller than 2400 feet. Yet, there are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of examples disproving this so-called “curvature”. And this isn’t my mathematical formula, this all comes from modern day “science”. One example is the fact you can see the entire Chicago skyline from Michigan across Lake Superior over a distance of 60 miles. The skyline should be hidden behind 2400 feet of curvature. The tallest building is the Sears Tower, which is 1452 feet tall. Simple math proves that you should not be able to see one iota of the Chicago skyline. You can see this at the 5:36 mark of the video below.

      Meteorologist Tom Coomes is trying to explain that the reason you are seeing the skyline is because it is a mirage. Now go look at pictures of what a mirage looks like and you will see that mirages invert whatever it is one is looking at. You can see that here in a photograph of a Lake Superior mirage:

      https://www.google.com/search?q=mirage+photographs&biw=1175&bih=603&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj74Ij82t_MAhVM4mMKHQXPBLMQ_AUIBigB#tbm=isch&q=examples+of+mirages&imgrc=pNsIOUfgddif2M%3A

      There are hundreds of proofs that we do not live on a globe. If you are interested in truth then go ahead and do a little research. We have all been lied to so it’s understandable to be skeptical about this whole topic. It is the most taboo subject there is nowadays.

      A few more quick examples:
      -From 81 miles away in Genoa, the Isle of Gorgona can be seen and stands just 70 feet above sea level. It should be 4,374 feet below the horizon according to modern day science.
      -The Isle of Man can be seen from 61 miles away which equals 2,480 feet of curvature. The highest point on the Isle of Man is 2,034 feet above sea level. It should be hidden by over 400 feet of curvature.
      -Reunion Island can be seen from Mauritius 149 miles away! Reunion Island’s highest peak is 3,072 meters above sea level, which is just under 2 miles. The island should be hiding behind 2.8 miles of curvature, so you should not be able to see the island at all if we live on a globe.

      You can see all the photographic proof of the above examples at the 39:25 mark of this video:

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      • madmanwbluebox November 8, 2016 at 6:52 pm

        the photo was taken from a height of almost 800 feet above sea level and the actual distance was something like 43-46 miles not the 60 claimed by FE’ers under the above set of input parameters being able to see only 2/3 of the Chicago skyline is perfectly correct in the globe model the remainder of the skyline was of course hidden by the curvature of the water, interesting to note in same video when shot from sea level on the beach none of the Chicago skyline was visible

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    • madmanwbluebox September 4, 2016 at 1:58 pm Reply

      at Adam, the formula your using is for a tangent point, in other words those elevations would be necessary if your “eye” level was on the ground 0″. as for any of the distances given in 200 proofs, they’re all exaggerated. bear mountain to NYC, Chicago shore drive to Michigan, Mt Brunswick to Mt Rainier, a mountain in Hawaii I forget at moment all the distances between them are incorrect compounded by incorrectly using the formula above, if you actually did your own research and verified the claims you would find the truth and see that flat earth is a hoax based on lies and deceptions , like moon landing photos, they were shot on film, they’re not digital images so how did flat earthers “prove” scanned film photos were photoshopped? it’s really 200 lies lol

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  19. Jean-Jacques January 27, 2016 at 2:48 am Reply

    All very interesting. One experiment that I don’t know why you have not done yet: get on a plane, and fly until you reach the edge of the Earth. Or get on a boat and sail there. See what happens. Back when the belief in a flat Earth was more popular and common, air travel had not been invented, and sea travel was much more arduous and took much longer. But today, thanks to the plane, and the more advanced boat, wouldn’t the easiest, most conclusive way to investigate this be by direct observation? All of the arguments by analogy fail if the analogy fails, and so far all of the analogies you have made, well, fail. But if you fly to the edge of the earth and take a picture, then we will know. Heck, we could hook up an automated plane- a drone, say- with a camera that feeds back to a monitor somewhere we could all be watching in real time, so none of us would have to risk flying off the edge into the abyss. Who is with me?

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  20. Pod Gora February 17, 2016 at 10:10 pm Reply

    Great idea, Mr Jean-Jacques!
    🙂

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  21. Truth Rising (@TruthRisingNow) February 18, 2016 at 3:48 pm Reply

    Hey blog owner (jwlpeace) I’d like to support your work, how can I contact you?

    Thanks!

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  22. Timorous March 23, 2016 at 11:02 pm Reply

    OMG, I can’t believe anyone still doubts this is face of so much proof. But I will admit, it was hard to shake my government-education indoctrination and accept something so simple like the earth is EXACTLY HOW IT APPEARS TO BE… flat!

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    • jwlpeace March 24, 2016 at 1:06 am Reply

      welcome. yea, and they got us believing the Moon that we can see move across the sky during the night, is doing exactly that, yet the Sun moving across the sky, as we also observe, is not what we are seeing. They had to keep the words “Sunrise and Sunset” because the peasants of the day, who toiled under the Sun and Stars could not be fooled so easily, yet once cities light pollution and mass public education programming began in earnest, it was easy to fool all.

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  23. Manuel Villanueva April 3, 2016 at 8:10 am Reply

    Wow, first time here,myself. I got to say, very interesting and definitely “out there” if I may say so without insult to no one. In all honesty not one single one of us has actually been to space nor the edge of the world. I’m with Jean-Jacques on taking a trip to find the edge, it s easier than going to space. But, the other day I watched a video about the world map that the USGS uses officially is the very same one that is on the UN flag. And why they use that one? For there many different versions of world maps. . . . they claim it is the accurate one.
    The outer edge of the circle in which our land sits on they claim is Antartica itself, a ring of ice encircling flat earth. If you were to reach it, you would still be hundreds of miles from where the dome meets the earth. OK now, I said if you were to reach it, because apparently the edge was discovered by I forget who and exactly what date, I’m not saying I believe or trying to prove anything, I just happened to catch the video on U Tube. Any how, someone walked into it on an expedition, like walking into a glass wall. Antartica is a rough place, with blizzards and all that, it ‘s not a walk in a snow covered park.
    Well according to the video he told the government, they checked it out, told other governments in secret of course, at one time all nations were doing expeditions there. After this “discovery” they all agreed to not to lay claim to any of it and form an international watch with their Navies to insure no one gets close to it. Especially oil companies. They like to explore. Expeditions suddenly were called off for good. And to this day, it is the only piece reality owned by no one. on this planet and it has so much oil, gold, invaluable resources that it would seem ridiculous to just simply ignore, and yet not one single government has attempted to claim for themselves. I have to ask, Why is that?. If the video is for real, I can’t even begin to wrap my mind around it, are they serious?
    So Jean- Jacques, I’m sorry, it seems we couldn’t make that trip anyhow not with the Navies of the world guarding it. You know this video is crazy enough to be true, alot of things here on earth do not make sense, yet they are here. This could be one of them.

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    • jwlpeace April 3, 2016 at 3:21 pm Reply

      and we still have to discover what caused the immediate, rushed trip down there directly after WWII where even the Captain of the flag ship, Olympus had no idea what the mission was just two weeks before departure and what caused the entire fleet to head back in just 6 weeks on a 6 month planned expedition of a military nature. keep questioning and thinking and researching, my friends, stay thirsty!

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  24. Pegz April 10, 2016 at 6:41 pm Reply

    Hello, I’m new to posting here. I trust I’m posting correctly. I came across your flat earth site while researching some other truth theories. Wow, there is a lot going on here from many different angles. A lot of work. Thank you! I’m going to throw some thoughts out there based on my personal search in relationship to spending some time visiting your site.

    The positive side of a conspiracy theory is, it is a means to get people to “think” pay attention, look around, question what really is going on within or behind the scenes, if anything. Theories are interesting and most people who get involved will and do learn a lot.

    The negative side is.. after some time a theory runs its course … and either dies or lays dormant within history taking with it no clear answers.

    Humanity has become so disconnected and compartmentalized from being divided and conquered through mental conditioning, that for us to become harmoniously interconnected into a unstoppable force of agreement .. as the effort to accomplish anything positive .. at this end in our history cycle is going to be very difficult for those who are waking up to advance forward the next…

    We know there is a growing truth movement out there coming from many angles. At the same time, there is the first huge obstacle to climb, how to get from A (confusion, divisiveness and doubt) to B (vision and movement) that people regardless of who they are can honestly grasp, feel positive about, know they are not being scammed some way… so they can freely get involved in whatever way they can.

    This “waking up” process “if” that’s the right term for it, is something I’ve been going through for a long time. So for those of us who know what we are experiencing is very real, what and who do we trust?

    I’m throwing these thoughts out there, before I comment further about the flat plane.. especially for those who know from where I am speaking and are in the forefront of trying to forge this “movement as a whole” whatever its correct terminology… into something positive and solid — instead of a possible venue to deepen someone’s pockets and / or something just to keep the couch potato entertained.

    A sincere thanks for listening…

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    • jwlpeace April 10, 2016 at 9:11 pm Reply

      WElcome to FE Investigation and Research. There are many, many topics to explore and no one has all the answers. Know this plz.

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  25. brankomenicanin April 20, 2016 at 6:05 pm Reply

    Hello Flat Earthers! My English is so poor, but I think I am the first FE-er from Croatia! I followed this theme about four months, because of some well-translated documentaries on YouTube (Eric Dubay, Dave, Mark Sargent and others). So long!

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    • jwlpeace April 20, 2016 at 9:32 pm Reply

      Welcome from Crotia….good to have you on the flat playing board.

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  26. BHill April 28, 2016 at 7:38 am Reply

    flat earth, artificial luminaries, planets /astrology affecting chakra system(conduit for planetary energies), hmmm talk about a well thought out control system. electrical?

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  27. Dan May 10, 2016 at 5:01 pm Reply

    Let the truth be known

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  28. Adam May 27, 2016 at 1:57 am Reply

    Then why is every image of Earth a perfect sphere???????? Have you ever seen an image from NASA that wasn’t a perfect sphere?????? Think about that for a second before you keep on making excuses to hold up this ridiculous globular Earth theory. Level and flat are the same thing, what in the world are you talking about?? You’re trying to tell me why I think the Earth is flat??? Honestly, you have no idea why I believe what I believe, that’s pure ignorance. There is not 1 scientific experiment that proves the existence of this fairy-tale force called gravity. Gravity absolutely does not exist. Why does smoke, helium and hydrogen rise up? Because they are lighter than the oxygen, nitrogen and argon that make up air. Anything lighter than air rises, anything heavier than air falls. Plain and simple. It’s simply mass and density i.e. weight. I will reiterate, there is no such thing as gravity. Kansas is called flatter than a pancake because, over 400 miles measured there was not 1 iota of curvature. That has nothing to do with sight, it was accurately and scientifically measured. You really are coming up with excuses. Go ahead and keep believing in fiction, it matters not to me. And ships absolutely do not disappear over the horizon, this has been proven time and time again! Take your own advice and get a telescope, or simply zoom in with a camera, or use binoculars and that same ship you’re claiming “disappears over the horizon” comes right back into view. The level of delusion you are demonstrating is nauseating and bewildering. Just wow.

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  29. Frank levison May 29, 2016 at 11:29 pm Reply

    Hello my good sir, I have some questions on the viability of the flat earth truth on a 2 dimensional plain, such as see in book, “flat world”. I am a giant fan of that book and have even have gained the nickname flat-frank, and that isn’t because I’m a trans-man. I am against all prejudice to lines, so your explanation should avoid demeaning remarks to them.

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  30. history June 4, 2016 at 9:06 pm Reply

    “don’t care to be debating”

    “My beliefs simply revolve around the truth.”

    How very openminded of you. Scratch that, I meant how very arrogant of you.

    Truth is something to seek, not possess. The moment you say you possess it, is the moment no one should ever trust you again.

    .

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    • Adam June 4, 2016 at 11:58 pm Reply

      When did I say I possess the truth? As I said, and you quoted, my beliefs REVOLVE around the truth. I absolutely did not say I possess the truth. Learn how to comprehend what it is you read.

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    • Michael Lynn June 24, 2016 at 4:43 am Reply

      If that’s your assumption that truth cannot be possessed by someone than you’re full of deceit and the least to be heard, and neither is your assumption the truth by your own confession but an empty one, and that from someone ever seeking what he can never obtain.

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  31. Enry June 6, 2016 at 4:44 pm Reply

    Adam Lake Superior is hundreds of miles from Chicago. I think you mean Lake Michigan

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  32. Mike tobin July 9, 2016 at 1:12 am Reply

    Brilliant just brilliant. I was woken up by GOD himself @4am 4 months ago. Im 52 years young and now reborn. My life has been changed for the best by the good grace of God our creator. Need advice on how to proceed with my found facts on flat water flat earth. Please respond in kind.

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  33. crochetrepublic July 11, 2016 at 10:55 am Reply

    Thanks for the website. The majority of the ancient Islamic scholar also believe the earth is flat and that the sun and moon has its own orbit. There are many mention in the Qur’an as well as the saying of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) as well about earth, mountain, sun, moon and stars, and how stars is created to guide traveller in their journey…

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  34. Sammy Jo July 20, 2016 at 10:14 am Reply

    Very interesting converstaions go on here. Great site and many thanks to people who made it possible. However I think that it would be much more convincing to debunk modern scientific theories rather than create new ones. We don’t know if world is surrounded by ice strip, because as someone on this forum has already noticed – we haven’t been there. We cannot say that world doesn’t spin, maybe it even dances, but all we know is that it doesn’t move the way scintists tell us. I love the example with stars circling around polaris. It makes obvious that earth doesn’t run aorund space like a mad man in all directions. All I wanted to say is : thank you and let’s all keep openminded because reality may be different than we all think.

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    • Pete July 22, 2016 at 6:44 pm Reply

      Please compare to the star trails making the same circle patterns at the south pole. How can that be explained? It seems that the star trails at the south pole would make long and only slightly curved lines, but they are identical to the star trails we’ve seen here at the north pole. Common sense seems to say that the earth is spinning on an axis. What am I missing?

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      • Sammy Jo July 25, 2016 at 7:43 am

        Hi Pete.Thanks for your comment and posting links from Antarctica. Your conclusions sound very resonable. I must admit I am a bit confused now. Must do some more research 😉

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    • madmanwbluebox September 2, 2016 at 11:31 pm Reply

      we know that about 4000 years ago Polaris wasnt the polar star, it was Vega, we know in about 15000 years Vega will once again be the north star, (due to earth’s precession) the constellations change throughout the year and northern hemisphere ones aren’t visible in the southern hemisphere and vice versa, obviously neither is Polaris which basically debunked the whole notion of the earth being flat

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      • bluepilldreaming September 4, 2016 at 10:25 am

        Mad Man we know nothing at all that happened 4000 years ago let alone 15000 years.

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      • madmanwbluebox September 4, 2016 at 1:30 pm

        and your credentials and expertise in archeology and interpreting ancient script and text is based on what again? of course we know what ancient civilizations saw and wrote, why do you think the Egyptians have swastikas all over? it’s a constellation they observed

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  35. michaelgeorgeau July 21, 2016 at 3:31 pm Reply

    Why do people keep claiming Antarctica is a no-go zone? It’s a popular tourist destination. There are all sorts of ways you can explore, by land, air or sea. Camp by the South Pole if you want and stop in and say high to the people who live and work on the base there.

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  36. michaelgeorgeau July 21, 2016 at 3:52 pm Reply

    This video has a major flaw in the logic. He uses vanishing lines to correctly represent 2 point perspective converging on a vanishing point at the horizon then strangely ignores the very same rules of perspective that would dictate the perceived scale of the sun would reduce accordingly with distance until it was just a single point. In real world observation, the sun is never the size of a single point, the smallest object we can observe before it is too small to see. On the contrary, it always appears the same relative size so perspective has little or no effect on our viewing. Another point he got wrong – the vanishing lines do not proceed past the vanishing point and below the horizon as he claims – for that to hold true to the rules of perspective then the vanishing point would have to be below the horizon and that would not work on the flat earth model. It would however, work on a globe model.

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    • michaelgeorgeau July 22, 2016 at 1:15 pm Reply

      In my above comment I erroneously refer to two point perspective – I should have said single point perspective.

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  37. Pete July 22, 2016 at 5:47 pm Reply

    While watching the Video, Into to Flat earth history, I saw a picture of star trails making circular patterns. I am taking for granted that this picture was taken somewhere close to the north pole. I began right away search for a time lapse or long exposure taken from the south pole and found several that look identical to the one presented here. It would seem to me that the long exposer images from Antarctica (at the edge of the dome) would have star trails that are long and only slightly curved, but the pictures were almost identical to pictures taken from the north pole.This would lead me to believe that the earth is a globe spinning spinning on its axis. Am I missing something that I should be considering? This is a simple proof that anyone can do. There is no complex math, or incomprohensable science and seems conclusive to me. The whole flat earth thing is been fun to research and consider, but in the end, I really want to know the truth. So the search for the truth goes on. Here are a few picture links, I’m sure there are plenty more. If circular patterns of the star trails at both poles don’t prove a globe earth, then I am sure there is a reasonable answer that I am missing.

    http://antarctica.kulgun.net/Photography/

    https://beautifulocean.org/albums/project-antarctica-366/content/star-trails/

    http://www.antarcticimages.com/keyword/satellite;antarctica/ — 3rd picture down. plenty of amazing pictures..

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    • bluepilldreaming July 23, 2016 at 3:02 am Reply

      Hi Pete

      If I were to set out to deceive a population about living on a globe not a flat plane I would take an image of a star trail from the North Pole and label it from Antarctica.

      I think we need to prove the source of these images.

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  38. bluepilldreaming July 23, 2016 at 9:28 pm Reply

    Thanks for your opinion FYA

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  39. doug August 30, 2016 at 7:42 pm Reply

    i do feel we are living on a flat earth.–my only disagreement is that you say we all have the kingdom of God within..that is 100 % false. only believers in Jesus have the holy spirit within.

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  40. madmanwbluebox September 1, 2016 at 5:21 pm Reply

    party’s over, next time my place, this is without a doubt the most ridiculous idea ever concocted. non stop flights from Australia to S. America and to S. Africa across the southern hemisphere (emphasis added) in 12-14 hours debunks any notion that the earth is flat. on any flat earth map it’s 15000 miles or more. aside from that common sense tells me according to the accepted laws of perspective that sun and moon rises and sets prove they are not moving away, shadows cast upwards from mountains as the sun sets is another hint, gyros tipping over on a plane trip is another proof, looking up the globe distance (taking into account the curvature) between cities and then driving that exact distance is another good proof of a globe

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  41. doug September 2, 2016 at 9:32 pm Reply

    interesting thing–when you look at space from any place on earth the universe is moving away from us. why is that?

    doug

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    • SG Today September 2, 2016 at 10:17 pm Reply

      You actually see this movement?? That is some fantastic eyesight you’ve got!!

      Oh, wait – are you quoting someone else with this? Can you cite the source so we can better understand what this comment is about?

      Thanks.

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    • madmanwbluebox September 2, 2016 at 11:26 pm Reply

      everything isn’t moving away from “us” or the milky way galaxy, as an illustration say “jane” is driving a car 20 mph, you’re driving 30 mph and Joe well he has a need for speed and is doing 60 mph, you’re all going in the same direction, without stationary landmarks to use as reference points from Joe’s perspective it looks like both you and Jane are moving away, Jane more faster than you, from your perspective it looks like both Jane and Joe are moving away from you and from Jane it looks like both you and Joe are moving away, Joe moving away the fastest , so to answer your question every star isn’t moving away from us, it fact the ones in the milky way (which is basically every star you can see) doesn’t change position all that much, which is why the constellations have always looked the same

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    • madmanwbluebox September 4, 2016 at 1:33 pm Reply

      I thought I replied, hmm anyway if your riding on a car heading north at 40 mph and jane is behind you going same way at 20 mph it would look like she is moving away from you if you have no other frames of reference

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  42. madmanwbluebox September 4, 2016 at 1:45 pm Reply

    the whole bringing ships back over the horizon is nonsense flat earth propaganda try to bring the sun back over the horizon then? the notion that the bottom of the ship reaches the vanishing point before the top is some ridiculous Rowbotham “revised laws of perspective”. if the earth were flat then someone on the 14th floor would see the sun “disappear” before someone on a beach but if the earth was a globe then the person on the 14th floor would see it last longer, do some math! not to mention if the sun was moving away according to laws of perspective it should shrink from view not be same size or half hidden behind the horizon, nor when it’s in that position it would not be able to illuminate the bottoms of clouds or cast shadows of mountains up into the sky, get a crayon and draw some rays of light and prove it to yourself

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  43. doug September 4, 2016 at 2:42 pm Reply

    i am not trying to prove anything–the book i read this in was saying the earth is the center of the universe–i could care less–just wanted to know why that is,and no you did not reply

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    • SG Today September 4, 2016 at 3:32 pm Reply

      Doug, what kind of book was this (name perhaps?):
      * fiction
      * scientific
      * other?

      And no, you did not reply to MY earlier request for this. 😦

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  44. doug September 4, 2016 at 9:29 pm Reply

    it was a christian book. i think the author was henry morris phd

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  45. Sammy Jo September 8, 2016 at 6:31 am Reply

    Yesterday I made an observation while waitng for a bus in the morning. It was around 7 a.m. Sun was low on eastern sky while moon was high above on the south. It was crescent moon. So as you can imagine moon’s right edge gave light. Sun was on the left. Therefore I cannot imagine, that moon reflects sun light, while sun was on the opposite side of it. Yesterday moon was visible over Poland (where I live) all day long. I guess it doesn’t make sense from the perspective of modern astronomy.

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    • SG Today September 9, 2016 at 12:55 am Reply

      Sammy Jo, I just saw the sun set to the west, with the moon overhead to the south. About half the moon was lit, on the side facing the sun.

      In all the decades of seeing the moon, the side facing the direction of the sun (or where it set) is the side that is lit. That’s just the way these things work.

      I’m not sure what you saw, but I can’t “imagine” this as you mention.

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    • madmanwbluebox September 9, 2016 at 2:13 am Reply

      I made a point of looking for the moon today it was of course a crescent, the lighted side of the moon was facing the sun I have no idea what you were looking at yesterday ; seeing the sun and moon in the sky simultaneously only works on a globe as neither orbit is dependent on the other, however on the “classical” flat earth model they are always 180 degrees opposite , now some FE’ers will state they “catch up” to each other but this of course defies Newtons 1st law of motion, but that’s apparently not a problem for FE believers as the entire existence of the FE sun and moon and their respective motion defy every law of physics, thermodynamics, seismology, astronomy, geometry, fluid mechanics, meteorology, geology just to name a “few”.

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  46. Sammy Jo September 9, 2016 at 1:11 pm Reply

    I was facing south, moon was in front of me high on the sky. It was 7th sept. https://www.calendar-12.com/moon_calendar/2016/september
    sun was risng on the left. Moon was lit on the right side.

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    • madmanwbluebox September 9, 2016 at 2:16 pm Reply

      I’ve checked several “moon rise” websites which provide the azimuth and elevation of the moon for Warsaw, 52 degrees N latitude, 21 degrees E longitude, I can not find any evidence of the moon being in the location you described at 7am near Warsaw, I don’t know what you were looking at but it doesn’t appear your story can be validated by any independent information, I suggest next time take a photo with the GPS tag on

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  47. madmanwbluebox September 9, 2016 at 2:31 pm Reply

    not being an asshole, but then you obviously wasted a lot of $ obtaining your degrees. the laser across water was done by the Discovery Channel, it proved curvature, any law of perspective proves sun or moon don’t get smaller as they rise or set, nor do they become elliptical, taking a gyro on a plane ride proves globe, non stop flights across southern hemisphere continents in 13 hours or less proves a globe, the sun gives off the full spectrum of electromagnetic radiation, if it was 3500 miles away we’d all be dead, doing simple right triangle math for the location of dawn in any city on earth demonstrates the sun should be 40 degrees above the horizon when it “breaks the alleged vanishing point” as FE claims, making a cell call or watching YouTube on a cruise ship hundreds of miles at sea proves satellites exist, the amount of evidence is literally overwhelming today meanwhile cave man (exaggerating) Greeks figured it out in around 250 B.C. without pictures from space, without the illuminati, and without free masons

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  48. RallyGodsPeople October 19, 2016 at 3:27 pm Reply

    Hi, I like your site, there’s good info here. I just wanted to show you what I’ve seen regarding the Mandela Effect. I hope you read this, God bless.

    This is a mind control game they use over and over. Just like with evolution, psychology and ball earth etc, they give you fake science then use the media (Newspapers, TV, Movies etc) to reinforce their fake science in your mind. They then follow that up with fake scientist “experts in the field of…” to further solidify their fake science. In the Mandela Effects case you have the perversion of Quantum Mechanics (their fake science), movies like The Matrix and The Butterfly Effect etc and TV (programming) of course and their fake scientist experts in the field. So do you think they made The Matrix to wake you up? Did the santa claus CERN employee wear those Mandela Effect signs in the video to tell you the truth about what is going on? Think about it.

    The father of QM Max Planck said “There is no matter as such. All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter.”, which goes perfectly with what the Holy Scriptures say. God spoke the world into existence and now you have all these theories about vibration and sound being the foundation of the Universe (Google it and see).

    Allow me to add my theory, you are in the apocalypse (the revealing of what was hidden i.e a lifting of the veil). Now they are doing what they always do, which is try to hide God from people. Now I will post below what I have found but it’s not complete because one person cannot figure all this out alone.

    This Nel(SON) of (MAN)dela–>ME is a sign from God. These satanist are always trying to hide or discredit God, from evolution to the ball earth to blocking access to the South Pole . Oh earthquakes are happening all the time now? It must be HARP. You say floods and severe weather are increasing at an unbelievable rate? It’s got to be global warming.How many times are we going to fall for the same thing repackaged again and again? Oh what a coincidence that after many people start noticing the ME they put out a D-Wave video basically saying they can do this. Meanwhile the clowns at CERN have an employee wearing a Mandela shirt on in a video and are “leaking” information on 4Chan that they’re responsible for it. Meanwhile their shills are all over YouTube (and the entire WWW) spreading the same lies to anyone who’ll listen. It’s obvious they want you to believe it’s them.

    Look at what the effect of believing humans did this, fear and confusion. You have people thinking they’re in another dimension or reality. The truth is nothing has changed that makes your personal history or situation any different. The only people claiming that are obvious shills. I haven’t even heard of someones goldfish disappearing much less someone in their family. Nobody’s missing an arm an eye or leg now. You’re trying to tell me one of those boogeymen has the power to change human anatomy, move continents and (apparently) resurrect the dead, yet we Christians are still alive and not magically teleported to a prison? What about their depopulation agenda? The same boogeyman is changing logos and lines from movies for the fun of it? The truth is even with the power that satan does have there are rules he must follow. This is Gods’ plan for us not satans. We need to remember who is omniscient, omnipotent, who declared the end from the beginning and whom all things are created through. When your creator is speaking to you, LISTEN. What’s it going to take a cloud to form a hand and smack you upside the head? Let me set up a base here first. There’s a ME change in the dedication of KJV Bibles that reads …”bright Occidental Star” (more on this below). Bright could be referring to the blindness some people have towards the ME. Occidental meaning – an artificial language, artificial language – a language that is deliberately created for a specific purpose. Star is of course used for angels and angels are used as messengers from God. Logos are changing and the Logos definition a. In biblical Judaism, the word of God, which itself has creative power and is God’s medium of communication with the human race. Take a look at the Lambda replacing A in the logos (KIA, Samsung, Saturn etc). Lambda as in it’s the Lamb Duh, but seriously though it’s the 11th letter of the Greek alphabet. The New Testament was written in Greek. Da also means [from] in Italian and [gives/gift] in Portuguese, easily read as, gift from the Lamb.

    E.T phone home is now home phone, where’s our real home? When we phone someone we’re communicating through a direct line. In this case home is phoning us. Also a homophone is a word that is pronounced the same as another word but differs in meaning, and may differ in spelling. This is part of how things are being communicated and it’s basically explained in just one movie line, there’s many other examples. “If you build it he will come”, well who is the he that’s mentioned? In the context of the movie HE will save the farm and which is the HE that saves? The farm has meaning Biblically as in the sheep with HE being the shepherd or the wheat as in the wheat and the tares. In Star Wars it’s not just “Luke I am your father” that’s changed. It’s “NO, I AM your father” emphasis on “I”. Look at that with C-3POs’ golden calf being destroyed. The golden calf in the Bible represents worshipping a false god, Exodus:32. “Life was like a box of chocolates” because now you know what you’re getting next, judgement and the return of Jesus. You deFINITEly (definately) have a finite amount of time, because we never mind (nevermind) God and we dolittle (Dr.Doolittle). There’s a separation taking place and it’s represented in the separation of words. This separation is also seen in famous movie and TV show lines. Jaws is now “You’re” going to need a bigger boat instead of “we’re”. The same is represented in Laurel and Hardy, “…mess you’ve gotten me into” instead of “…mess you’ve gotten US into”. Two different futures for two types of people. The Ford logo now has a lower case cursive L coming right off the cross section and spells lord. There’s so many more that I could probably write a book on it.

    This is just one of many end times signs right in front of your face. It’s time to wake up or you may never wake up in this life time and when you finally do ( on the other side) it won’t be good for you. Last call for people to get on board, accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior, ask for forgiveness and claim your eternal rewards.
    Welcome to reality and the supernatural power of God. He’s only going to show himself more from here on out. unfortunately for the evil ones and those who don’t worship him it’s not going to be good, judgement is coming.
    There’s just so many messages and not enough people trying to understand them. Instead they’re researching CERN or D-Wave or whatever. To all my Christian siblings, don’t fear http://pastebin.com/TAyfu3n9 , God is telling you he’s with us, just listen, watch and pray.

    Revelation 3:20-22, 20 Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me.
    21 To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.
    22 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.

    Ephesians 1:7-10, 7 In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace which He lavished on us in all wisdom and insight, having made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His good pleasure which He purposed in Himself, for an administration of the fullness of the times, He might bring together all things in Christ, those in heaven and those on the earth—in Him.
    God bless you all.

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    • jwlpeace October 19, 2016 at 3:57 pm Reply

      You should start your own blog!

      Some others

      BELIEF = To Be LIE
      SOLDIER = Sold To Die….that is why they where ‘Dog Tags’ and we are only human “resources”.

      HELLO = tell people to go to HELL-O

      We languish in our phonecian sound language, they gauge or “lan” or lanier…English lainer, “thong for fastening parts of armor or clothing” (late 14c.), from Old French laniere “thong, lash, strap of leather.

      TESTIFY = When in court to assert to your truthfullness, one would hold their testicles when testifying!

      P-resident. RES = thing or property. IDENT = Indetified. P = Principal

      President, is the CEO of the thing identified by the Principal of the corporation.

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  49. RallyGodsPeople October 22, 2016 at 6:17 am Reply

    Hello jwlpeace, good to see someone who thinks as I do. My favorites are probably history = His Story (Jesus) and Universe Uni Verse = One Verse Genesis 1:1. You or anyone else may be interested in these pastebin post, it’s sort of my blog hehe. Feel free to share the information if God moves you to do so.

    My updated and much easier to read rapture post. I’m still not done with this yet. I keep finding more verses.
    http://pastebin.com/YsHt9kr6

    The online shills/disinfo agents post, very important to read if you haven’t heard of them.
    http://pastebin.com/TDWGKsyL

    A post about AI and the internet.
    http://pastebin.com/uBTztG4F

    A rebuttal post to people who claim we’re still under the OT law. This may ruffle some feathers you are forewarned.
    http://pastebin.com/DZih232q

    The Mandela Effect post.
    http://pastebin.com/5TYsiEx5

    A post about deciphering the supposed Mandela Effect in Isaiah 45 KJV.
    http://pastebin.com/khZ2fKFn

    As with everything, all glory to God.

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  50. Timothy Hightower November 8, 2016 at 2:47 am Reply

    I offer this as constructive criticism to argument I heard on Sage of Quay interview of November 6, 2016. Google this question to understand how a rocket can work where there is no air to push against. How does a rocket work in space if there is no air to push against? To claim a rocket cannot work where there is no air to push against is not a valid argument.

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    • jwlpeace November 8, 2016 at 6:17 pm Reply

      Maybe you should research “vacuum of space” and then tell me what is a rocket pushing against, if there is no friction, and no drag and no oxygen to fire rockets.hmm a di-lemma

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      • madmanwbluebox November 8, 2016 at 7:01 pm

        maybe you should research newton’s laws of motion and how rockets work? rockets have an oxidizer compound as part of the fuel, a mass “x” of fuel is ejected at velocity “y” in direction “z”. rocket moves in direction “-z” at velocity “-y” exactly according to physics and newton’s laws of motion which have never ever been wrong in observations, experiments and calculations. people should read text books instead of watching ignorant fake flat earth engineers on YouTube like Brian Mullen. all of this is moot points though as the non stop flights between Australia and S America and Australia and S Africa in 12-14 hours covering 6000 miles or so is irrefutable proof of a globe.

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