~ Comments, submissions and constructive critiques all welcome as long as it is civil.
This site asks many more questions than it answers. Common sense and our own eyes tell our brains that the Sun and Moon move across our horizons each and every day and that the Earth is a plane, as seen from standing on any beach in the world and looking out over the ocean as well as from an airplane.
Common Sense and reason tell us the Earth is stationary and not rotating on her axis at and incredible 1,000 mph as well as orbiting around the Sun at some 1,000 mp/second traveling some 533 million miles each and every year while our Solar System is then traveling around the Milky Way at over 500,000 mph, as science claims it is.
Why would “they” perpetuate such a massive lie for so long?
Literally to keep our individual powers in check in that we are the center of the universe and all have the Kingdom of God within.
As Above, So Below.
200 Proofs Earth NOT a Globe
http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/08/200-proofs-earth-is-not-spinning-ball.html
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The Flammarion (1888). The image depicts a man crawling under the edge of the sky, depicted as if it were a solid hemisphere and plane earth, to look at the mysterious Empyrean beyond. The caption translates to “A medieval missionary tells that he has found the point where heaven and Earth meet…”
Since the end of the Dark Ages and the beginning of the Scientific Revolution, around the mid-1500’s, the world has been told, and believed, the Earth to be a globe.
The spheroid called Earth, spinning in a complete circle every 24 hours on it’s tilted access traveling at some 1,000 mph while yearly circumnavigating the Sun in one year traveling an additional 68,000 mph, or 1,000 mile per/second.
We are told by astronomy phycisists that our Sun Solar System travels around our Milky Way Galaxy at over 500,000 mph, while we are glued to Earth through gravity in a atmospheric cocoon that keeps all motion in sync with a rapidly spinning ball that we all live upon.
Yet the 500 year old story of a heliocentric solar system vs. the 3500 year story of a flat plane geocentric Earth began when the Vatican held all knowledge and book publishing just began so the masses could educate themselves in the 15th and 16th centuries.
From Copernicus to Galileo to Newton to Kepler, all validated “proven” science came from the Royal Society of London.
Starting with the Industrial Devolution , at the beginning of the 20th century, all school text books and teacher accreditation’s were founded and funded by Robber Baron’s, Rockefeller, JP Morgan, Ford et. al (Source)
After WWII, with the critical assistance of the Vatican “ratline” passports, the United States brought Nazi Rocketeer “Wunderkind”, Werhner Von Braun, into the country through Operation Paperclip.
Von Braun ran NASA’s Saturn rocket program for 25 years. All feeds that came from the Moon on the alleged first Man on the Moon transmission came from one feed at NASA where all TV broadcasters had to copy from.
Since the 1960’s, when we entered the “space race” against our alleged arch enemy, Russia, during the cold war, NASA has provided us the narrative of our physical Earth, with every single picture and every single story, about what we have learned from the Cosmos through telescopes and space exploration.
“Maintain a lie or secret for one generation and the next generartion becomes easy pickings, particularly if the lie is echoed in school textbooks, TV cartoons, The History and Discovery Channels. Confuse one generation and the next will happily ingest the media gruel prepared for them.” ~ Elana Freeland
Since the 1800’s, very few have challenged the Heliocentric theory because it is “settled science”.
Until now.
Our most basic cultural identities, of a global earth traveling around a central star, traveling around a galaxy amongst billions and billions of other galaxies, too far away to fathom, with their own planets and solar systems in the universe, is accepted common knowledge to all.
Yet, If one simply observes for themselves, without prejudice or belief, he/she would see a Sun and Moon traveling across the sky each day along a prescribed path from East to West.
We see the size of the Sun and Moon being relatively the same.
We feel no motion of an Earth traveling at 1,000 mph each and every day around a Sun traveling at 1,000 miles/second and over 500,000 mph around the Milky Way galaxy.
And no matter how high in a plane we are, we never see the curvature of the Earth, only a flat, level plane.
Only from NASA and Google Earth do we see any curvature, yet simple physics tells us we should.
The ancients called it a “Sunrise” and “Sunset” and we use that same language today, though we are told that these terms are incorrect in basic astronomical physics. No English teacher of proper usage of grammar, or any physicist, ever corrects this erroneous description of our “settled” knowledge as to the physics of a heliocentric Earth.
For over 3500 years many cultures including the ancient Summerians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Vedic Indians, Chinese and original Native Americans believed the earth to the center of all things in the Universe.
Additionally, the Bible is filled with references of a flat earth and firmament above in a closed system.
Once a generation is indoctrinated to a way of thinking, it is very easy for following generations to admit as fact what was once considered nonsensical.
If long term powers that be wanted to control world knowledge, to make the every man, women and child think and feel insignificant, and not hold the thought of a “Kingdom of God Within”, you would tell him he is only a very, very, very small part of a much bigger whole that he cannot possible comprehend or understand.
As Above, So Below
This blog is an attempt to bring to those open-minded enough material to consider the possibility that we have been brainwashed completely and successfully for some 500 years!
The site is explore, question, inform and solve hidden truths about whether we are a plane or a planet, whether the Moon and Sun move across our skies as it appears, or that what we see is not really what is happening “out there” but we hold our own Sun, Moon and stars within each of us.
So let’s go chase some rabbits down the hole with open minds and insatiable curiosity for truth and higher consciousness …..
Aplanetruth.info 
Due. Just trying to figure things out and last vid i watched was about the trolls and plants in the fe movement. Is it only that they dont mention jesuits or is what they are saying about fe wrong. I got interested in fe after listening to the other side of the argument. I do that on most subjects. You have to hear both sides before having any idea on what is right/wrong. Sooo…is the earth flat as far as we know or have we all been played. Skiba says read the bible as is, and it points to fe teachings. So is he ( and the others ) speaking what can be proven or again, are we being played. Thanks for listening people.
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See convexearth.org
Documentary from scientists at Dakila Pesquisas after a 7year research
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LOL. Did you honestly fall for that scam?
convexearth. “Convex Earth” means curved earth, it was an April Fool joke. not a documentary. It was a mockumentary to see how many gullible fools there are who blindly believe all and any lies told them about the Earth being flat rather than actually observing things for themselves.
Urandir Fernandes de Oliveira is a known con artist and faker.
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Sorry people, i meant dudes not due.
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HELLO Jamie Lee, Please check out this very interesting video from twitter. DEW caught on video??? your opinion counts on this matter! thank you in advance.
https://twitter.com/DeepStateExpose/status/1164690984611078144?s=20
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@Yogi3dalord
Account suspended
Twitter suspends accounts that violate the Twitter Rules
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Would someone please tell me what happened to the YouTube account, and how we can still view the videos?
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it was suspended for promoting violence, hate, racism etc. This has happened at least twice and had nothing to do with the lies about Earth being flat.
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At least they knew the difference between men and women. They ate nothing but organic food, drank well water (no fluoride) and were not bombarded with EMF and chemtrails. Their architecture was superior than modern times. These were not stupid people by any means. You wouldn’t of lasted a day in that time.
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Nice blog site. Thanks!!!
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Did The Sun Stand Still and The Moon Stay or Did The Earth Stop Spinning and Moving – Joshua 10:13
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Are you and your associates ready to recognize that solutions possibilities are stillborn when the major portion of energies is fixated on the problems created by corruption selling confusion?
If interested in a dialogue concerning real, effective resolutions to some root problems, we are interested. Email welcome to open dialogue. Check RUMORMILLNEWS, reader Charles in the last few days.
I was where you are at in what you call the truther movement 25+ years ago, having information beyond what is considered cutting edge today. Please remember fax machines were new tech then. That means massive amounts of time was spent in the books at many archives and well stocked libraries. Books and written forums are very difficult to manage in relation to digital perversions.
There are laws all the corporations and their agents are subject to and the survival of the control masters depend on them. Two dependencies, one to stay operating the other to confuse. One set explains it all. Think surety and guarantor in relation to agent.
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My only associates are the Godhead and my wife.
“Think surety and guarantor in relation to agent.”
Been there, worn all the T-shirts and lost. De-facto ‘courts’ make up the ‘laws’ on the hoof – like playing football when the other side owns the ball, the pitch, the ref and the moving goal posts. Now I have nothing to lose I have never been stronger. Best of luck with whatever you’re doing.
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PS I have only just received your reply hence the delay in replying.
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Since when has the Goat Herders’ Guide to the Galaxy been an accurate science reference?
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At least they knew the difference between men and women. They ate nothing but organic food, drank well water (no fluoride) and were not bombarded with EMF and chemtrails. Their architecture was superior than modern times. These were not stupid people by any means. You wouldn’t of lasted a day in that time.
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i check back here every so often to see if Jamie has done anything to follow his work. I’d follow him here on his website if he updated it. please come back jamie!
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https://youtu.be/5A27t-igQMw last year proof of dew
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https://youtu.be/5A27t-igQMw Fox fire camera. Sorry for not leaving my name.
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Jamie
I think something is up with the Paradise water after the fire. The State, The Feds, PID-Paradise Irrigation, Del Oro water district in Paradise and Purdue University who was called in to help, all say something different. Andrew Whelton from Purdue has documented and written about the State testing our water on their employees , unbeknownst to them. They all became acutely ill. Also our Gov states that our contaminated water isn’t his interest or priority. Might find something interesting going on here
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Any thoughts on the FEMA camp that went up on the Skyway going into Paradise? After the PGE camp came down, they build tons of lil Trailor housing with lights, ramps etc. The cover story is it was built for all the workers after the PGE camp was taken down at that sight but that’s hardly the case. Very few Paradise construction works have inhabited this huge, highly developed facility. Rumor is, it’s for sale? What the heck is the Real plan for it? Don’t think anybody is emotionally stable enough to hear the truth.
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Best to be following what’s going on with the insurance company’s and how they’re treating the policy holders after the Ca fires. This isn’t a Paradise Campfire issue , anyone who owned a home is vulnerable. Although many people have had a positive experience with their insurance company, it’s a Bloodbath for Hundreds!!!
Contact the non profit company, United Policy Holders. They have hosted 14 workshops, each with a separate purpose lasting around 3 – 3 1/2 hrs a piece. The mere fact , you have to attend such extensive learning, to equip yourself , against a service You Pay For, tells you there’s a Huge problem.
The State Insurance Commissioner has been caught taking money under the table from the insurance companies. Google it!!! And!!! He still holds his job! Therefore, all these insurance companies aren’t being held responsible for illegal, dishonest practices costing enormous financial loss. Mafia!!!
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Are you noticing all the stack um and pack um building going on in Miriam Park in Chico Ca? It’s been in the works for around ten years. Unbeknownst to me, I was having a conversation with one of the developers from the beginning. I said to him, WOW, I can’t comprehend the need for that much housing in Chico. His off the cuff comment was, well, if San Fransisco experiences it’s Big earthquake, the people will need a place to go….
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I have a question… How does heat increase as we dig deeper and deeper below the surface? And what does the earth look like from below?
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Simpsons use DEW in first scene blaming it on ozone hole.
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What if the Tarterian empire vanished because of the free energy ? Thanks brother you got a set of balls love the info
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jamie, please consider:
a way of getting around u bube for me is to go to your website, where you have audio files available for download to my android phone where i can pick up the file with a music player app (amazon music). this takes me around the u tube dominator, i can play the audio file in my car, at my own leasure, and without wifi. i have seen mcalvany even do something similar with a podcaster app button which does the download automatically.
thanks for all you do, long time fan
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Jamie,
I’m trying to contact you. I’ve been a student of Steiner for years. Have some stuff I’d like to send you. Please send me your email address.
Thanks,
Rick Emmerson
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Bullshit 🙀👺💩
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How do we unite against Covid 19 Lock Down? You have the Lee Dundas Speech at the Capitol but no contact info? We need to organize across California at least. Everyone is wearing mask and gloves, it is pathetic.
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Mississippi population. 3 million. Covid deaths. 8,540
Hong Kong population. 7.6 million. Covid deaths. 212, or 28 per million.
UK population. 68.3 mn. Covid deaths. 133,229, or 1,950 per million.
USA population. 333 million. Covid deaths. 666,219, or 2k/mn.
I know where I would prefer to be.
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It has been 1 and 1/2 years since you made that post. Still buying the narrative?
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What?
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I noticed you got axed by YouTube today. Where else can I find the videos? Seems like everything here is linked to YouTube
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When is the full book scheduled to be released?
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2-3 weeks hopefully
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Is Jamie. still posting anywhere? Having a hard time finding his channels
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Hi, How can I contact Jami Lee? I have a gift for him, but don’t use Facebook or social media. Can’t find an email address to reach him. Thanks, Debbie
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Hello how do I contact you with email it phone number. I have very interesting information to tell about missing children that is happening here in Washington DC by group of people those belong to some religious order
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Slow it down on the new age philosophy of the kingdom of god within. The context of the passage by yeshua to a hebrew audience is among their midst, not within themselves. Hebrews did not believe in a dualistic worldview like the greeks did.
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Well the Hebrews believed in a Duality Godhead – The Elohim. The Duality Godhead:
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“Einstein was a plagiariser”. So a few claim, but where is your proof? Just because someone claims something doesn’t mean it is a fact,
“and fraud”, Where is your proof?
“and thoroughly exposed as such by Nikola Tesla.” Pray elaborate?
I note you totally agree with everything in the post you replied to other than “Einstein”.
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I’m not here to convince people, just tell them The Truth. If you disagree without researching it that’s up to you – remain in ignorance, who cares? Not me, the information is out there if you’re interested.
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“I’m not here to convince people, just tell them The Truth.” No you aren’t
“If you disagree without researching it that’s up to you” I have researched which is why I am asking for your proof. You claiming something that is untrue is not the truth it is just your opinion
“– remain in ignorance,” I am not but you are.
“who cares?” Yes you do otherwise you would not be posting and responding to posts..
“Not me,” See above
” the information is out there if you’re interested.” I know, which is precisely why I want you to prove what you claim.
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Yes I am, and can you prove that I am not? NO!
You’re a loser that hangs on to the narrative and never questions anything. You also follow the same route that all losers follow.
Which means you’re not interested in The Truth ‘cos you can’t handle The Truth. If you were then you would automatically KNOW that Einstein was a plagiariser and fraud. Therefore your blinkered position and attitude immediately betrays you.
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You’re a loser that hangs on to the narrative and never questions anything.” Nope, that’s you. I asked you to explain and you became abusive.
“You also follow the same route that all losers follow.” See above.
“If you were then you would automatically KNOW that Einstein was a plagiariser and fraud. Therefore your blinkered position and attitude immediately betrays you.” That sentence proves me totally correct and you are what you accuse me of.
So where is your proof? All I see is abuse and evasion.
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The Truth NEVER loses and I’m not here to educate you. As I said, you can remain in ignorance = that’s your problem, not mine.
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“I’m not here to convince people, just tell them The Truth.” No you aren’t.
“If you disagree without researching it that’s up to you” I have researched which is why I am asking for your proof. You claiming something that is untrue is not the truth it is just your opinion. Thanks for agreeing it is just your opinion.
“– remain in ignorance,” I am not but you are. Thanks for agreeing you are ignorant.
“who cares?” Yes you do otherwise you would not be posting and responding to posts. Thanks for agreeing you care.
“Not me,” See above. Thanks for agreeing.
” the information is out there if you’re interested.” I know, which is precisely why I want you to prove what you claim. Thanks for agreeing you are incapable of proving what you claim.
“Yes I am, and can you prove that I am not? NO!” Yes. I have done by you refusing to prove your claims. Well done, caught by your own arrogance. Thanks for agreeing.
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LOL Researched where? I’ll tell you:
“At first, by controlling the banking system we were able to control corporation capital. Through this, we acquired total monopoly of the movie industry, the radio networks and the newly developing television media. The printing industry, newspapers, periodicals and technical journals had already fallen into our hands. *THE RICHEST PLUM WAS LATER TO COME WHEN WE TOOK OVER THE PUBLICATION OF ALL SCHOOL MATERIALS. Through these vehicles we could mold public opinion to suit our own purposes. THE PEOPLE ARE ONLY STUPID PIGS THAT GRUNT AND SQUEAL THE CHANTS WE GIVE THEM, WHETHER THEY BE TRUTH OR LIES.”*
— The Jew, Harold Wallace Rosenthal 1976. Aid to US Senator Jacob K. Javitz of NY.
Your piggy grunting needs a lot of practise!
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“LOL Researched where? I’ll tell you:?” Your post has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with my OP does it, so why did yuoi post it? Why have you changed the subject? Why are you diverting and dissembling?
Why not be sensible and answer my post? It starts “Common Sense and reason tell us ….”
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Changed the subject? Not at all, it’s very appropriate, for it reveals the mickey mouse sources of your ‘research’ = totally compromised and corrupted by the Jews, and, of course, Einstein was just another lying Jew. QED as those papists would say.
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“Changed the subject?” Yes. i posted some comments and you responded to my post. I asked you for proof of the claims you made in response to my post. You have refused to so do. You just resorted to insults and taunts and then posted a totally extraneous comment.
“Not at all, it’s very appropriate, for it reveals the mickey mouse sources of your ‘research’ = totally compromised and corrupted by the Jews, and, of course, Einstein was just another lying Jew. QED as those papists would say.” Not at all. I simply asked for roof of the claims you made, but you insulted and taunted, as you are still doing, and then posted nothing whatsoever with my OP or proof of your very specific and totally unsubstantiated claims. You have n idea of my experience or knowledge. I care little about religion but you are apparently obsessed with it and that clouds rational thinking.
So answer the questions rather than diverting and dissembling. If you do not you will yet again be proving me correct by default and your wilful refusal to engage civilly and rationally.
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No. I posted a quote that you’re too stupid to understand. The quote exposes all those quack institutions that brainwashed morons like you rely upon for your sources of information – and you’re still grunting like a pig.
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i know you posted a quote, one that had nothing to do with my posts. Nothing whatsoever
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It had EVERYTHING to do with your posts, for it exposed the rotten foundation of EVERYTHING you believe to be sacrosanct. You’re 100% exposed as a fraud, like your Jew idol Einstein.
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To create the images, the researchers had to look outside of the traditional hospital setting – the HiP-CT technique instead relies on a real-life particle accelerator. The European Synchrotron Research Facility (ESRF) in Grenoble, France, stepped up to the challenge: after a recent (and wonderfully named) Extremely Brilliant Source upgrade (ESRF-EBS), the Synchrotron emits the brightest source of X-rays in the world – 100 billion times brighter than a hospital X-ray.
“The idea to develop this new HiP-CT technique came after the beginning of the global pandemic, by combining several techniques that were used at the ESRF to image large fossils,” Paul Tafforeau, lead scientist at ESRF, said. “[U]sing the increased sensitivity of the new Extremely Brilliant Source at the ESRF … allows us to see in 3D the incredibly small vessels within a complete human organ, enabling us to distinguish in 3D a blood vessel from the surrounding tissue, and even to observe some specific cells.”
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LOL More quack pseudo-science. Viruses as contagions don’t exist.
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The HiP-CT technique has as much relevance as your posts, i.e. none. Which is precisely why I posted it. But you fell for it. Congratulations.
““Sorry, i don;t do world views.” Now you’re lying.” not at all. You do, an extremely limited and ill informed one that you try and push on people and fail. I detest the phrase because it is not only limiting but was coined by the religious and assumes one has beliefs. i,e, you. I don’t, and therein lies your problem you are trying to enforce beliefs on me who doesn’t do beliefs.
npoe]w be a good, sensible, rational, sane adult and answer my questions rather than trying to push your beliefs, which I am not in the slightest interested in.
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And I detest your Spiritually dead comments.
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Thanks for once again confirming you cannot answer my questions and your claims were totally unfounded. If and when you do prove the claims I may possibly engage you about your other [roblems.
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I never answer loaded questions, and you’re Spiritually dead, so it would be like answering a cow over the hedge, all I would get is a blank stare in return.
Oh and I made no claims – The Truth is stated and/or declared, not claimed, and then know-nothing numbskulls waste their time arguing in return.
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“Oh and I made no claims” Which is a blatant lie isn\t it, you claimed “Einstein was a plagiariser and fraud and thoroughly exposed as such by Nikola Tesla.” So why are you lying?
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That was a statement of Truth, as revealed by Nikola Tesla and easily researchable, but you’re too vain, stiff necked and so far up your own arse to do that.
Apart from that, all Jews are liars, swindlers and crooks, so that covers the fraud Einstein anyway. As I said at the beginning – you’re an ignorant loser, so stop backing dead horses.
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“That was a statement of Truth, as revealed by Nikola Tesla and easily researchable, but you’re too vain, stiff necked and so far up your own arse to do that.” Not at all. Why are you afraid of stating exactly what you are referring to as Tesla said many things, after all he was a brilliant inventor and a prolific writer.
“Apart from that, all Jews are liars, swindlers and crooks, so that covers the fraud Einstein anyway.” That is your opinion and you know what they say about opinions don’t you!
If you say that about Jews than you are saying the entire Bible is lies as it was mostly written by Jews. So you aren’t too clever, are you.
“As I said at the beginning – you’re an ignorant loser, so stop backing dead horses.” Again, your opinion and nothing more. Losers are those who run away when questioned, deny they make claims insult and taunt etc, Do you know anyone who does that, thetruthnotdoctrine? His real name is apparently Charles. An extremely proud and arrogant person who believes he knows everything.
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I’m not afraid of anything, especially lazy jerks like you who don’t do any meaningful research, and just parrot the mainstream erroneous propagandised consensus of opinions. And that is what you are – an opinionated arsehole.
Take a lesson from this heathen wretch, for he makes you looks even more stupid:
“An error does not become Truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does Truth become error because nobody sees it.”
– Mahatma Gandhi
I KNOW what I know – you only ‘know’ what some lying son of a bitch has told you. Keep on grunting little piggy. LOL
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Thanks once again for continuing to prove me correct, Charles. All you have is taunts, insults and wilful ignoring of all facts, What s rather telling though is that you use the exact same verbal approach as Flat Earth cutists. It really makes me happy that you have proved you are their brother in every respect.
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More circular BS reasoning from the little piggy. Oink! Oink! Oink! LOL
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You claim “The Flat Earth BS is a CIA internet psy-op – a pack of lies and you are a duped useful idiot.” Which yet again proves your arrogance and ignorance. The CIA was not created until 1947 whereas the current Flat Earth cult was established in 1881 and the internet until the ’70s.
It is of course based on sound biblical literalism, as your beliefs are, but as with anything biblical the Bible can be interpreted to mean whatever one wants it to mean. As you so wonderfully prove with your ill informed, semi-literate diatribes. If you read the original text you would have known why it is sound. but then so is much of the Bible but that doesn’t mean it is true, does it. As you prove all the time in your ragings. Not only does it depend on your personal “worldview” but it depends on your knowledge of all things biblical, historical and scientific.
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“It is of course based on sound biblical literalism.”
Bullshit! It is based upon the perverted interpretations of ignorant vain, pompous morons like you.
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Thanks for continuing to prove me correct, Again. All you have is taunts, insults and wilful ignoring of all facts,
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How does someone who parrots lies become correct? This alone proves your perverted and deluded state of mind.
And an insult is only an insult if it’s not true, and in your case all the ‘insults’ are correct and true = the cap fits, so wear it sunshine.
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“How does someone who parrots lies become correct?” I have no idea. You are the one denying historical facts and observable, physical evidence not me. You are the one refusing to answer questions honestly and responding with insulting opinions.
“This alone proves your perverted and deluded state of mind.” See above.
“And an insult is only an insult if it’s not true, and in your case all the ‘insults’ are correct and true = the cap fits, so wear it sunshine.” Not at all and you seem to insult everyone you can’t browbeat to accept your blatant misinformation.
Whenever anyone uses NASA or the CIA in reference to Earth’s shape and motion they are advertising they have little or know experience of the Earth, maths or physics.
When were heliocentrism and the Earth’s rotation first proposed?
Please explain trade winds, TRS, gyroscopes and gyrocompasses, ocean currents, weather patterns, terrestrial magnetism and the operation of magnetic compasses
When and by whom was the first real land expedition in the Antarctic?
Who was first to reach South Pole and when?
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Historical facts? You have no facts, just ignorant opinions. And what observable physical evidence?
Who said anything about the earth’s rotation? Not me.
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You stated “I’m not here to convince people, just tell them The Truth.” I responded with “No you aren’t
Your response “Yes I am, and can you prove that I am not? NO!” I responded
“Yes. I have done by you refusing to prove your claims. Well done, caught by your own arrogance. Thanks for agreeing.”
You see, you argue yourself into a corner and then respond with taunts and abuse. Not very grown up is it, Charles!
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And I told you that The Truth is not a claim – YOU are the moron with all the claims.
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Yet again all you have is taunts and insults.
“Who said anything about the earth’s rotation? Not me.” Really? How about “Then we get this spinning and orbiting earth garbage and nonsense which, if I am correct, was conjured up by a wretch called Nicolaus Copernicus 1473 – 1543 AD. His mickey mouse ideas …… ?
“This means that they believe God made the sun the centre of the universe and got all the planets in our solar system to revolve around the sun yet, The Holy Scriptures repeatedly tell us a different story and here are just a few of the many verses that prove what I am saying is true:”
“OK, so there we have it, the earth is still, it’s at the centre of the universe,”
You were saying, Charles?
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This is what I say:
Geocentricism – Did The Sun Stand Still and The Moon Stay or Did The Earth Stop Spinning and Moving – Joshua 10:13
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I know, I quoted you, So you lied, didn’t you. “Who said anything about the earth’s rotation? Not me.” And then agree you lied by posting a link agreeing you did “This is what I say”. Well done, the first time you have answered honestly, Charles.
Whenever anyone uses NASA or the CIA in reference to Earth’s shape and motion they are advertising they have little or no experience of the Earth, maths or physics.
Now how about being honest and give a direct, honest answer to my OP not your opinion.
“Einstein was a plagiariser”. Where is your proof?
“and fraud”, Where is your proof?
“and thoroughly exposed as such by Nikola Tesla.” Pray elaborate?
And the other questions
When were heliocentrism and the Earth’s rotation first proposed?
Please explain trade winds, TRS, gyroscopes and gyrocompasses, ocean currents, weather patterns, terrestrial magnetism and the operation of magnetic compasses
When and by whom was the first real land expedition in the Antarctic?
Who was first to reach South Pole and when?
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How has your sick perverted mind worked out that I lied? You really are some filthy piece of work.
At no point was the earth mentioned by me in any context, so it’s YOU that is lying, as per usual.
I am not going to wipe your arse for you. If you profess to be a seeker of facts then go and research Tesla’s views on Einstein. But you won’t because you’ll be a week wiping the egg from your ugly face.
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So, Charles, you are now denying you posted “This is what I say:
Geocentricism – Did The Sun Stand Still and The Moon Stay or Did The Earth Stop Spinning and Moving – Joshua 10:13
https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/geocentricism-did-the-sun-stand-still-and-the-moon-stay-or-did-the-earth-stop-spinning-and-moving-joshua-1013/”
after you claimed you hadn’t said anything about the earth’s rotation?
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Prior to that I had not mentioned the earth in any context – you’re the liar and flat earth moron, not me.
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So? You had said it and you proudly confirmed it,.which was my point. I didn’t specify when or where, nor did you and I have been referencing your site, Charles.
You need to learn English as well, running away from questions does not mean leaving a thread or page it means running away from the questions.
So you are once again being disingenuous st the very least. So carry on proving me correct and you are dishonest.
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Said what? There is no comment of mine mentioning the earth prior to me posting the link to my Geocentric article. So you’re lying and, of course, we know that’s the only thing you’re good at – like all flat earthers.
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Learn English. Charles, and stop squirming.
“Said what? There is no comment of mine mentioning the earth prior to me posting the link to my Geocentric article.” So? I have been referring to your webpage and you didn’t throw hissy fits then, so why now?
“like all flat earthers.”
Read and understand. Or ask someone who understands English to explain it to you.
You claim “The Flat Earth BS is a CIA internet psy-op – a pack of lies and you are a duped useful idiot.” Which yet again proves your arrogance and ignorance. The CIA was not created until 1947 whereas the current Flat Earth cult was established in 1881 and the internet until the ’70s.
It is of course based on sound biblical literalism, as your beliefs are, but as with anything biblical the Bible can be interpreted to mean whatever one wants it to mean. As you so wonderfully prove with your ill informed, semi-literate diatribes. If you read the original text you would have known why it is sound. but then so is much of the Bible but that doesn’t mean it is true, does it. As you prove all the time in your ragings. Not only does it depend on your personal “worldview” but it depends on your knowledge of all things biblical, historical and scientific.
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Show me these Scriptures and I’ll make you a laughing stock.
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Come on Mr. Charles the lying, hypocritical know-it-all who is so ashamed of his posts he denies them to his followers, where is you proof?
“I am only proven correct in your perverted and sick distorted mind. Hardly a recommendation. Keep on grunting little piggy.” and yet you don’t want your “flock” to see that is the sort of thing you post to others, i.e. you are a liar.
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Read this and try and understand it, after all that is what you originally commented on Then try and answer the points I raised and also the other questions I asked. All of which you run away from.
“Common Sense and reason tell us the Earth is stationary and not rotating on her axis”: Actually they don’t, and to quote Einstein “Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen.”
“Since the end of the Dark Ages and the beginning of the Scientific Revolution, around the mid-1500’s, the world has been told, and believed, the Earth to be a globe.” Incorrect, we have known Earth is a spheroid for well over 2,000 years.
“Von Braun ran NASA’s Saturn rocket program for 25 years.” Sort of, so what?
“All feeds that came from the Moon on the alleged first Man on the Moon transmission came from one feed at NASA where all TV broadcasters had to copy from.” Incorrect again. They were also received and transmitted from the RAAF Woomera Range Complex and Jodrell Bank, where recordings were also retained.
“Since the 1960’s, when we entered the “space race” against our alleged arch enemy, Russia,” Wrong again, it was the USSR not Russia.
“Since the 1800’s, very few have challenged the Heliocentric theory because it is “settled science”. Very disingenuous to say the least. It was and is observed reality. The FE cult was started by Rowbotham based entirely on biblical literalism. He is the one who dreamt up the ice wall, yes dreamt up as he had never set foot outside the UK let alone visited Antarctica.
“We feel no motion of an Earth traveling at 1,000 mph”. Correct, because we do not feel motion, we only feel changes in motion.
So, just in your intro. there are a few things totally erroneous. Not a good start was it.
Can you answer the points honestly?
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I have no idea what point you are trying to make. I think you just like to create arguments for the sake of arguments. You are mentally disturbed.
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Thanks for once more confirming you are refusing to be honest and also refusing to answer questions.
“I think you just like to create arguments for the sake of arguments. You are mentally disturbed.”
The first contact between us was from at 21:21 on the 8th. November from you with “Einstein was a plagiariser and fraud and thoroughly exposed as such by Nikola Tesla.” So you are the instigator therefore by your stated worldview you just like to create arguments for the sake of arguments. You are mentally disturbed. Thank you for telling us.
Then after stating someone creating arguments is mentally disturbed you continue with “Do you actually know what Geocentricism is?” Oh dear. You blew it yet again. You should not have posted after the previous tirade.
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Einstein being a fraud and a plagiariser is a statement of Truth, not an argument. You are the moron with ALL the dumb arguments, and the fact that you have not discovered that in your so-called ‘research’ just proves that you’re a crap researcher, or perhaps you’re lying and have done no real research at all. That would fit for I have dealt with you egotistic illegitimates hundreds of times before and you’re all the same.
Once again do you actually know what Geocentricism is, because again you falsely accuse me of being an advocate of heliocentricism. This proves that you’re a blinkered one dimensional idiot who is so far up his own arse he automatically comes to erroneous conclusions.
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Thanks for once more confirming you are refusing to be honest and also refusing to answer questions.
“I think you just like to create arguments for the sake of arguments. You are mentally disturbed.”
The first contact between us was from at 21:21 on the 8th. November from you with “Einstein was a plagiariser and fraud and thoroughly exposed as such by Nikola Tesla.” So you are the instigator therefore by your stated worldview you just like to create arguments for the sake of arguments. You are mentally disturbed. Thank you for telling us.
Then after stating someone creating arguments is mentally disturbed you continue with “Do you actually know what Geocentricism is?” Oh dear. You blew it yet again. You should not have posted after the previous tirade.
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Now you’re just rambling incoherently – seek professional help ASAP.
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Thanks for once more confirming you are refusing to be honest and also refusing to answer questions.
“I think you just like to create arguments for the sake of arguments. You are mentally disturbed.”
The first contact between us was from at 21:21 on the 8th. November from you with “Einstein was a plagiariser and fraud and thoroughly exposed as such by Nikola Tesla.” So you are the instigator therefore by your stated worldview you just like to create arguments for the sake of arguments. You are mentally disturbed. Thank you for telling us.
Then after stating someone creating arguments is mentally disturbed you continue with “Do you actually know what Geocentricism is?” Oh dear. You blew it yet again. You should not have posted after the previous tirade.
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Oh yes, definitely a flat earth whack job – with your vain repetition – you’re now displaying all the classic symptoms.
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“I think you just like to create arguments for the sake of arguments. You are mentally disturbed.”
Thanks for once more confirming you are refusing to be honest and also refusing to answer questions.
“I think you just like to create arguments for the sake of arguments. You are mentally disturbed.”
The first contact between us was from at 21:21 on the 8th. November from you with “Einstein was a plagiariser and fraud and thoroughly exposed as such by Nikola Tesla.” So you are the instigator therefore by your stated worldview you just like to create arguments for the sake of arguments. You are mentally disturbed. Thank you for telling us.
Then after stating someone creating arguments is mentally disturbed you continue with “Do you actually know what Geocentricism is?” Oh dear. You blew it yet again. You should not have posted after the previous tirade.
“I think you just like to create arguments for the sake of arguments. You are mentally disturbed.”
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Oink! Oink! Oink! Oink!
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“I think you just like to create arguments for the sake of arguments. You are mentally disturbed.”
Thanks for once more confirming you are refusing to be honest and also refusing to answer questions.
“I think you just like to create arguments for the sake of arguments. You are mentally disturbed.”
The first contact between us was from at 21:21 on the 8th. November from you with “Einstein was a plagiariser and fraud and thoroughly exposed as such by Nikola Tesla.” So you are the instigator therefore by your stated worldview you just like to create arguments for the sake of arguments. You are mentally disturbed. Thank you for telling us.
Then after stating someone creating arguments is mentally disturbed you continue with “Do you actually know what Geocentricism is?” Oh dear. You blew it yet again. You should not have posted after the previous tirade.
“I think you just like to create arguments for the sake of arguments. You are mentally disturbed.”
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Oink! Oink! Oink! Oink! You need more practice, the grunting is still third rate.
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“(demon-inations). AngliCAIN, CAINterbury”. the only ones I have encountered that do infantile things like that are the infantile and the insane. Mostly Flat Earth cultists and other religious cucks. and children of course, then they realise it is very, very silly.
“they love satanic darkness and secrecy“ nice description of yourself. Runs away when asked questions and just taunts and abuses. Sounds like the sort of thing your beloved Satanists would do doesn’t it. And the insane of course.
“I think you just like to create arguments for the sake of arguments. You are mentally disturbed.”
The first contact between us was from at 21:21 on the 8th. November from you with “Einstein was a plagiariser and fraud and thoroughly exposed as such by Nikola Tesla.” So you are the instigator therefore by your stated worldview you just like to create arguments for the sake of arguments. You are mentally disturbed. Thank you for telling us.
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You’re out of your depth, and I can hear the gurgling from here. Road sweepers should stick to sweeping the roads – brain surgery is WAY above them – a man should know his limitations – obviously something you have not yet learned. God has no religion.
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Shall i copy all your inane diatribes toy your web page, Chares, so you disciples can see what an insane and foul mouthed liar you are? Would you like that, Charles?
“I think you just like to create arguments for the sake of arguments. You are mentally disturbed.”
The first contact between us was from at 21:21 on the 8th. November from you with “Einstein was a plagiariser and fraud and thoroughly exposed as such by Nikola Tesla.” So you are the instigator therefore by your stated worldview you just like to create arguments for the sake of arguments. You are mentally disturbed. Thank you for
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You brought up the subject of Einstein, not me. So I rebutted your sycophantic comment.
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I quoted Einstein and then you spouted total bollocks, i.e. you started an argument, didn’t you Charles. And you still cannot provide a shred of evidence to support your lies, can you Charles.
Also, you simultaneously totally ignored the rest of that post. That means you must believe Earth is flat. If you don’t, answer everything I raised in the subject post and all subsequent posts. You won’t will you Charles because you are too ill informed and inexperienced otherwise you would have done so. All you have done is make infantile taunts and insults, marks of a young child or a mentally unstable adult.
A rebuttal is simply a statement that says that something is not true, it does not mean the rebuttal proved anything. It is no more than a statement that a claim or criticism is not true.
I rebut your claims and as you cannot produce any evidence and simply give a very personal opinion my rebuttal stands and you are not correct until and unless you provide actual proof.
Further you have no idea what sycophantic means.
So. You agree I can copy and post all your comments to your web page and you will not block or ghost them, correct?
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I exposed the lying Jew fraud that you salivate over which makes you an Einstein worshipper. You have been outed, like him. Btw the piggy grunting is getting louder with each of your puerile comments. LOL
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I have already told you that I do NOT agree with ANYTHING that you say.
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I note you are so weak and dishonest you not only deleted your own comments that I reposted on your site but you have also blocked me, Charles. Only liars do that sort of thing Charles, those afraid of the truth and being exposed for what they are.
Interestingly one of your deluded co-liars did exactly the same. Hitler, Trump and Stalin would be proud of you.
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Thanks for agreeing you are a blatant liar.
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Thanks for proving me correct yet again. Still no proof, just insults, taunts and evasion. what does the Bible have to say about dealing with others and honesty?
“Said what? There is no comment of mine mentioning the earth prior to me posting the link to my Geocentric article.” I didn’t claim that though, did I, Charles. As I stated, I have been referring to your web pages for a while and now you suddenly start throwing hissy fits. Amazing! That is your worldview Charles, your published claim.
You need to learn English, Charles. and logic.
“go and research Tesla’s views on Einstein” As I stated, I have, but I have no idea what you are specifically referring o so pleas be true to your ideals and provide the truth.
what about all the other questions you refuse to answer? The ones you are scared of.
“like all flat earthers.”
Why not be sensible and answer my post, as I asked? It starts “Common Sense and reason tell us ….” That you refuse to do so once again proves you don’t really know what you are talking about, do you. We are not talking about your worldview we are talking about a post I made. So drop the pretence and be honest.
“Einstein was a plagiariser”. Where is your proof?
“and fraud”, Where is your proof?
“and thoroughly exposed as such by Nikola Tesla.” Pray elaborate?
And the other questions
When were heliocentrism and the Earth’s rotation first proposed?
Please explain trade winds, TRS, gyroscopes and gyrocompasses, ocean currents, weather patterns, terrestrial magnetism and the operation of magnetic compasses
When and by whom was the first real land expedition in the Antarctic?
Who was first to reach South Pole and when?
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Do you actually know what Geocentricism is?
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Dear RWM and Brethren,
Please see attached insert for the Installation Summons with the Elected Office Bearers to be obligated and invested tomorrow night. If I have anyone out of place, please let me know asap.
Yours S&F
S+F,
Charles “thetruthnotdoctrine” Senior Warden.
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It’s time you called the warden of your local asylum and have him pick you up.
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Yet again, all you have is taunts and insults and run away from questions. You can dish out the abuse etc. but when someone turns your beliefs/worldview back on you you get upset.
Why not be grown up for the first time in your life and answer the very,very simple questions you keep running away from?
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I am still here, dick head and I am going nowhere.
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“Yes I am, and can you prove that I am not? NO!” Yes. I have done by you refusing to prove your claims. Well done, caught by your own arrogance.
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I am under no obligation to prove anything, especially not to someone like you. You people are a dime a dozen – the mass indoctrinated.
Moreover, I have told you The Truth, and you’re rejecting it. If you were interested in The Truth you would research it for yourself, but no, your closed mind is already made up. There’s no teaching people like you = totally non-receptive.
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“I am under no obligation to prove anything,” Possibly, but them you should not post totally unsubstantiated claims and then run away should you. And I am under no obligation to accept your unsubstantiated claims. If I stated there was no such thing as a god or Kingdom of God then by your logic that proves I am correct. Your logic nit mne, so there is no such thing as a god, is there.
“especially not to someone like you. You people are a dime a dozen – the mass indoctrinated.” So why not educate me, tell me what you, the fount of all knowledge, can enlighten me with.
“Moreover, I have told you The Truth, and you’re rejecting it.” No you haven’t you simply made unsubstantiated claims.
“if you were interested in The Truth you would research it for yourself,” What ios the truth? You have to tell me.
“but no, your closed mind is already made up.” Again, y=totally illogical. I asked for proof, evidence, and you refuse to provide any which is proog=f I am in no way closed minded doesn’t it.
“There’s no teaching people like you = totally non-receptive.” See above.
“Einstein was a plagiariser”. So a few claim, but where is your proof? Just because someone claims something doesn’t mean it is a fact, Thanks for agreeing.
“and fraud”, Where is your proof? Thanks for agreeing you have no proof.
“and thoroughly exposed as such by Nikola Tesla.” Pray elaborate? Thanks for agreeing you have no proof.
I note you totally agree with everything in the post you replied to other than “Einstein”. Thanks for agreeing.
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The Truth can never be unsubstantiated – The Truth is.
I have not agreed with anything you say. How could I? Your world view is based solely upon lies and it’s obvious you love being lied to, as with most closed minded dummies.
Your grunting is not improving btw LOL
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“The Truth can never be unsubstantiated – The Truth is” you wouldn’t know it if you trod in it. You ran away from my questions and started posting about totally unrelated things. i.e. you don’t know anything, do you
“I have not agreed with anything you say. How could I?” Prove me wrong then and answer my questions, otherwise you are agreeing. I have also proved your logic is not logic but totally illogical.
“Your world view” Sorry, i don;t do world views, I leave that to the people like you, people who don’t think for themselves.
“is based solely upon lies and it’s obvious you love being lied to, as with most closed minded dummies.” We have already ascertained that is totally untrue, so why are you repeating a blatant untruth.
Why not be sensible and answer my post, as I asked? It starts “Common Sense and reason tell us ….” That you refuse to do so once again proves you don’t really know what you are talking about, do you. We are not talking about your worldview we are talking about a post I made. So drop the pretence and be honest.
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I know who The Truth is, but you don’t, as I have already proven – you love the lies that they tell you and you never question them and your defence of the lying Jew Einstein is the precedent and proof that unravels the whole of your delusional satanic world view.
I am not running away, I am still here exposing your ego driven bullshit. All is vanity – all is meaningless.
“Sorry, i don;t do world views.” Now you’re lying.
As Paul accurately described the aca-demon-ics of his day – “Professing themselves to be wise they became fools” and you’re a 24 crt fool and without realising it – the biggest fools of all.
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Thanks for proving me correct yet again. Still no proof, just insults and evasion.
What did you think of the HiP-CT technique that proves you are wrong?
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I am only proven correct in your perverted and sick distorted mind. Hardly a recommendation. Keep on grunting little piggy.
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“Common Sense and reason tell us the Earth is stationary and not rotating on her axis”: Actually they don’t, and to quote Einstein “Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen.”
“Since the end of the Dark Ages and the beginning of the Scientific Revolution, around the mid-1500’s, the world has been told, and believed, the Earth to be a globe.” Incorrect, we have known Earth is a spheroid for well over 2,000 years.
“Von Braun ran NASA’s Saturn rocket program for 25 years.” Sort of, so what?
“All feeds that came from the Moon on the alleged first Man on the Moon transmission came from one feed at NASA where all TV broadcasters had to copy from.” Incorrect again. They were also received and transmitted from the RAAF Woomera Range Complex and Jodrell Bank, where recordings were also retained.
“Since the 1960’s, when we entered the “space race” against our alleged arch enemy, Russia,” Wrong again, it was the USSR not Russia.
“Since the 1800’s, very few have challenged the Heliocentric theory because it is “settled science”. Very disingenuous to say the least. It was and is observed reality. The FE cult was started by Rowbotham based entirely on biblical literalism. He is the one who dreamt up the ice wall, yes dreamt up as he had never set foot outside the UK let alone visited Antarctica.
“We feel no motion of an Earth traveling at 1,000 mph”. Correct, because we do not feel motion, we only feel changes in motion.
So, just in your intro. there are a few things totally erroneous. Not a good start was it.
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Einstein was a plagiariser and fraud and thoroughly exposed as such by Nikola Tesla.
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Come on Mr. Charles the lying, hypocritical know-it-all who is so ashamed of his posts he denies them to his followers, where is you proof?
“I am only proven correct in your perverted and sick distorted mind. Hardly a recommendation. Keep on grunting little piggy.” and yet you don’t want your “flock” to see that is the sort of thing you post to others, i.e. you are a liar.
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Great website, thanks for sharing this information. I have seen this website many times the last couple of years. I have added your website link on my website under ‘Truth resources”
Keep up the good work!
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odysee, brighteon, rumble, bitchute
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Hi jaymie
there are 300,000 americans paralysed through spinal chord injuries. do you know of any successful treatment that can enable spinal chord nervers to repair themselves? what about your biomag healing? any success stories? or any other alternate remedies for it?
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45yrs old and this my 1st computer 🙂 Keep up the good work Jamie
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80 years and counting. Common sense, simple observation and reason tell us the Earth is not f;st and stationary.
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I just found this. Hmm, interesting, indeed
https://ilovetheuniverse.com/flat-earther-spends-20000-trying-to-prove-earth-is-flat-and-accidently-proves-its-round?fbclid=IwAR08VNB7KOHUpN9xueGQxqgAtoeWHwdutRTdph-DaOe4-jHsvYEKc_KqOdI
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Campanella and Knodel and well known con artists who make a good living out of scamming the gullible, They are also part of the Covid-19 denial movement. I already knew they were dishonest but that is sinking to a seriously new low,
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How do FE advocates analyze the many N/S polar circumnavigations AND the many Antarctica circumnavigations – both manned & drone?
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They just say they never happened. As a professional navigator I have given them many proofs that Earth isn’t flat but they just say I’m lying. None of them have any experience but they blindly believe lies and deny reality.
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What is a a professional navigator ?
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A professional navigator is someone who is professionally qualified as a navigator. Just as a professional accountant is qualified in accountancy. In my case that means a Master Mariner FG.
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A professional navigator can/will use maps and related artifacts and technology, to safely cause “vehicles”,on land sea, or sky, to travel accurately from origin to destination, across our fine globe planet.
Be glad they are there to get the job done.
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Navigators use charts (not maps). most of which are Mercator Projections, AEP as if the infamous Gleason Map are rarely used. Back in the day all we used were sextants, chronometers and The Nautical Almanac. All rather ancient. Not like today with GPS/SatNav.
Do you know what the bearing of Polaris is?
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Well, trust me, you won’t get a decent reply from them if they’ve already called you a liar. I’ve read that flat earthers know the truth about the globe but they live to troll well meaning scientists. So they are just playing a game. You might as well go along with it. Good luck!
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There is a very small number of trolls who profess the be flat Earthers but they are easily detected. The vast majority are believers whether you want to believe it or not. One of them recently died of CoV-2 because of his belief and then there was Mad Mike who also died. You obviously don’t realise that a number of high profile ones make a good living out of the cult. Just like Evangelical Pastors, but that is no surprise as the cult is also pure biblical literalism.
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How do fe’ers make a living from this cult? They don’t have churches like the evangelical preachers do they?
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Various means. If they upload to YouTube for example they get paid by advertisers, so if you are popular you can earn a reasonable amount, Tens of thousands per month in some cases. Li8ke the millionaire TikTokers and “influencers” we see.
Then quite a few of them sell books, CVDs and various other merchandise and most ask for donations.
Campanella openly said it was paying off his mortgage!
Most don’t have it as their principal income source, just a profitable sideline.
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Same people basically. The FE cult is pure biblical literalism.
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Flat Earth Map – Monte, Urbano (1544–1613)
The link is dead. Here’s a link to the Hi-Res version if you want to download it:
http://u.pc.cd/cYRrtalK
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Pretty picture, but so what? It was an aerly version of an Azimuthal Equidistant Projection. The AEP was mathematically developed by Abū Rayḥān Muḥammad ibn Aḥmad Al-Bīrūnī in the 10th Century. Al-Bīrūnī knew the earth was spherical and also believed that it rotated, he also measured the earth’s radius. He deduced the existence of the Americas on the basis of his accurate estimations of the Earth’s circumference and Afro-Eurasia’s size. This was several hundred years before Columbus et al.
Then Copernicus destroyed the prevailing geocentric religious dogma (biblical literalism) around 500 years ago.
The French measured the Earth’s oblateness a few hundred years ago, and navigators, astronomers et al worked out that sextant altitudes had to be corrected for the Earth’s curvature hundreds of years ago.
Compasses only work because the earth is spherical and additionally gyrocompasses only work because the earth is also slowly rotating and gravity is a fact.
https://www.davidrumsey.com/blog/2017/11/26/largest-early-world-map-monte-s-10-ft-planisphere-of-1587
PS. I am a Master Mariner FG and have navigated all around Earth. OK?
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Then if you are a master at naval of the seas. Then you surely know about how radar only goes straight forward and debunks the earth curve theory in itself. Because radar on non civilian vessels works way beyond the official data regarding the earth curve. Stop lying. The lies must stop here and now. PS: I’m the master of detecting lies.
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Just jumping in to show that NOAA has this to say about radar: https://tinyurl.com/53ah8rzx
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rickysmithnowlabs.com
you’re forgetting about CELLS.
what is “you”, son? where do “you” end, and “you” begin? too complicated to explain – but that is what you are missing. you are right to question our relation to the earth, sun, and moon. and you are right that we are all powerful in relation. but you are missing the cells.
non-self. buddhism. epistemology. ontology. logic.
look there.
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i cant find your magnets you spoke of on jeffs show, can you help, no way to have contact with you??
Angela nowpower@yahoo.com
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Thanks for the truth!!!
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