A Plane not A Planet
Many comments to catch up with once again, but quickly…
His real name is Eric Michaels, not Eric Dubay. so the person in Maine who is being pointed at probably has nothing to do with it and will now be deluged.
dude, your Shill colors are flying high iheartiowa!
How much evidence does one need?
just like trying to convince a globehead who only relies on “belief”
‘shill’ ‘globehead’ ‘only relies on “belief”‘
Just more name calling – never anything substantial or backed by evidence.
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All those who resist mass empirical evidence, logic, thought and reason to fall on indoctrinated belief systems installed since birth, who to still want to “believe” in round ball Earth when vast evidence conclusively proves otherwise.
I think it is ‘Occam’s Razor’ that claims….simplest is best. Water is flat, period.
You can’t bend water. Then too, water just will NOT run uphill and any river flowing
north would be going uphill on a globe model.
Then I have my senses. To be a GE theory person, I must deny, suspend ALL my
senses and say….I FEEL like I am straight up, but I am not. I FEEL like I am stable
but I am whirling around at some 1,000 mph plus all that rate around the sun,
effectively thousands of mph. And feel absolutely nothing.
Birds can easily fly right up in the air, seeds can float up into the air, and
we can jump, do gymnastics in the air, or play sports.
It doesn’t make sense.
Now, as to why someone becomes abusive, they get worn down,
handle far too many bad comments. They need others support and
sometimes that is not given.
Then when planes land or take off, if the earth is spinning, then it is spinning.
It is either spinning or it is not spinning.
We all know about vectors and whether it is spinning towards or away from us.
These are all easy experiments also.
Then I read rather a lot on illusions, that ‘house of mirrors’, how sometimes
things don’t appear as they are, so we also have this to contend with.
Let us all work to try to find out….where are we?
What is it?
Now, I do follow the bible, but I did not find this out FROM the bible.
But having seen this, I see this has to be heavily weighed.
It makes sense that all of us are being watched. Apparently even
water has memory. This also makes sense that Pot Poi, Stalin didn’t
cause all that and just….get old, no problem.
I’m not happy anyone has to ‘pay’, but it’s far worse they ‘get away’.
Let’s work together.
Actually, if you have been following his work from the start, Michael is his middle name. When Facebook gave him a lot of crap and deleted his first account, he had to start over and with a different name… that’s when he went with Eric Michaels… so, not really a deception. But i agree with you… just because someone with Eric’s same name is in on Intellius is meaningless… and proves nothing. It is just finger-pointing, just more of what we’ve come to expect from those who routinely deny certain other truths… like who started the Jesuit Order. This has all the appearances of just another false accusation. You know them by their deeds.
Why don’t you start his fan club, you’d have lots of shillites to join it seems. Other real FE truthers are getting attacked by “Dubayettes” you can form a club and leave the real work and research to those with minds to see and ears to hear b.s. when we see it! bye
And, this proves what???
that the self named leader of the FE movement is a fraud…and fraud vitiates everything.
is it that hard to see with plain eyes that he said he had no connection to DC and Bales proved him to be an out and out liar? Geez, what does it take for you guys? i bet if he came out himself and admitted it in public, you all “Dubayites” would say he was forced to do it against his will.
just like all the Obama apologists who say he tried, but Congress wouldn’t let him when he has signed more Executive Orders, going around Congress, taking away more rights, allowing him to kill or hold anyone at his sole discretion, than any other President.
Interesting since Eric is using his real name and face. Not like jwlpeace with a box within a box for an avatar. Who are you jwlpeace? Do we get to see your face? Hmmm? I think it is only fair to face your accuser, right?
Not about me sweetie, i let me work speak for me. its not about the name. Can you begin to understand that its to assist others to better understand? that is why my other blog, also without name, is called TABU, for Towards A Better Understanding. your growing wearisome. Find someone else to attack plz.
If you want to prove something prove it. I need to tell you how proof works? How about some evidence that Eric Michael Dubay’s parent’s names are Roger and Kim Dubay. How about that? An Intellius report showing the middle name of Eric “M” Dubay to be Michael? Because THAT would constitute proof. But we’re all idjits out here, right? If YOU are the shill… all you have to do is pack up your phoney avitar and made up name and move on to the next mark.
You post the work of other people. If this blog disappeared tomorrow no one would care. Eric Dubay has more talent in a fingernail that you will have in 100 lifetimes you jealous little gossip girl.
You’re figuring this site out Wanda.
Rick i have no agenda. where is your work? put up or shut up dude. My body of work speaks for itself. move on, this site isn’t for you, or wanda. move on plz.
Lol, way to respond jw! Seems to some of us that you *do have an agenda or else why the ridiculous attacks on Eric Dubay? Why is he the only one you go after? Why have you consistently erased my comments asking for proof of the accusations you throw at him without ever addressing my questions? Normally honest people don’t act that way. Why don’t you put up or shut up?
First I …mostly ….have no opinion of E.D. as far as whether he is real, or fraud.
I did find it …possibly…interesting that he may have connections to the military
of Thailand through his…is it wife?….ex wife? What?
And I will say there was….thinking back….dissonance in something he said.
It registered, but I tossed it off as E.D’s way of finding things funny.
But when E.D. explained growing up in school, how he always questions
the globe model, he kind of ‘laughed’….rather flippant almost, and
it did not ring right.
Maybe it was just his way, as I said.
If E.D. were an disinformationalist?….disinformer, then he should be disinforming,
right? He should be sowing things within that reinforce the globe model,
or that make people really question the F.E. model…would that be correct?
Would it be correct to ask for evidence of ‘shillership’? ‘Psyopsis’?
I personally have enjoyed both sites, but personally I have enjoyed
jcpeace more perhaps due to ….’style’? And I just am not so sure
about Atlantis, that particular ‘hoax’ that I think E.D. also condones.
I think everyone is really watching E.D. so if something goes wrong,
I think people will spread this quickly.
E.D. was not, from what I saw, a ‘team player’ with other
F.E. people. I saw a loner.
Then there are other things too, that it turns out OTHERS had discovered
many of these things before this. So was it original? Or not?
And does it matter?
Sorry for a long dialogue here, hoping it’s not a ‘diatribe’!
This is not high class, doesn’t have class. We look at Ericsson WORK, his face to face videos where he very politely with English accent explained very well FE.
This work continued well with this site, other sites.
We expect attacks, the powers that want FE closed down don’t sit still.
Does it matter that I might have found ED a bit arrogant? Maybe he needed it to go up against the establishment…which he did, paid dearly for that.
I hope he is happily in Thailand teaching yoga.
The enemy is hidden, not visible. Shadow boxing, moving around.
The enemy will feed you tidbits to go on a wild goose chase.
They win then.
Don’t let them.
Best to BOTH of you…great work.
Don’t despair…please. We care. And we value you.
Sorry…my auto typer was playing games again.
‘Eric’s’ not Ericson. Tablet is just too small. My faukt.
The powers even…’went crazy’, my writing this! We’ve talked about spying, mind control.
Their agenda is turn FE against each other.
FE specialists took on more than SCIENCE of FE. You all became targets.
We pawns appreciate your work, support you.
We’re glad Eric did his work, no matter who he is.
Sometimes leaders must…rest, back away…recoup. This battle is big.
Best to all, thanks for ‘liking’…from yahoo R and S, often a rare treat!
The folks put lots of great stuff up. Maybe time to rest?
It took me 15 minutes of research to discover that Bales admitted on his Facebook that he got into the FE in 2012/13. Alex Jones referenced the flat earth and Eric Dubay’s website in 2009. Bales is claiming he woke Dubay up to the flat earth. Bales is a liar.
Thank you jwlpeace for wasting my time. Again.
People like Bowles and jwpeace have severely misjudged the intelligence of the average flat earther because the average flat earther is smart enough to see through the lies they spew. They either have an inflated view of themselves, or else they know they aren’t smart enough to fool someone an above average so they fail at their job. Don’t be mistaken, this is a paid job for them to create, or at least attempt to, divisions in this “movement” for lack of a better word. They lose every argument and due exactly what a lower intelligence person does when they know they’ve lost an argument and that is to use derogatory language and throw accusations at those who question them. Their behavior is childish at best and absolutely laughable.
As for the Jews, i am beginning to re-think some things in that area… i am beginning to realize what is necessary is a well-laid, long-term plan. They did infiltrate the Vatican… they have infiltrated everything, literally… but now i am not so sure that is necessarily a bad thing. I know that sounds pretty crazy… but, there you have it. What changed my mind and caused me to question, literally every single thing i have previously thought is this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHkiZNT3cyE&t=0s
wanda IT HAD BEEN PROVEN THAT ROGER AND KIM ARE HIS PARENTS, ROGER DUBAY IS ADMIN IN HIS GROUP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfAfYUsXKcg&index=9&list=PLerRvZCzjirU9emNTqe_DZflQwdkjPYae&t=1s
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