# Top Ten Undeniable Proofs the Earth is Flat

1) The horizon always appears completely flat 360 degrees to the observer, regardless of how high you go up. Any curvature you think you see is from curved airplane windows or Go Pro cameras and fisheye lenses (which NASA loves to use). The reality is that the horizon never curves because we are on an endless plane. On a globe with 25,000 miles in circumference you would see a noticeable disappearance of objects the further they are as they would be leaning away from you and dropping below the constantly curving horizon!
Completely flat horizon from the stratosphere: http://m.airpano.com/360Degree-VirtualTour.php?3D=Stratosphere-Caucasus

2) The horizon always rises to meet your eye level never no matter how high in altitude you go. Even at 20 miles up the horizon rises to meet the observer/camera. This is only physically possible if the earth is a huge “endless” flat plane.

If Earth were a globe, no matter how large, as you ascended the horizon would stay fixed and the observer/camera would have to tilt downward, looking down further and further to see it.

Horizon always at eye level: https://youtu.be/8twAg6CH2sM

3) The natural physics of water is to find and maintain its level. If Earth were a giant spinning sphere tilting and hurling through space then truly flat, consistently level surfaces would not exist here. There would be a massive bulge of water in the oceans because of the curvature of the earth. If earth was curved and spinning the oceans of water would be flowing down to level and covering land. Some rivers would be impossibly flowing uphill. There would massive water chaos and flooding! What we would see and experience would be vastly different! But since Earth is in fact an extended flat plane, this fundamental physical property of fluids finding and remaining level is consistent with experience and common sense. The water remains flat because the earth is flat!

4) If Earth were a ball 25,000 miles in circumference as NASA and modern astronomy claim, spherical trigonometry dictates the surface of all standing water must curve downward an easily measurable 8 inches per mile multiplied by the square of the distance. This means along a 6 mile channel of standing water, the Earth would dip 6 feet on either end from the central peak. Every time such experiments have been conducted, however, standing water has proven to be perfectly level.

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## 18 thoughts on “Top Ten Undeniable Proofs the Earth is Flat”

1. SortingHat February 23, 2017 at 9:26 pm Reply

I’ve notice when I go to viewpoints no matter how high up you go the edge of the land always seems to be the same. Go to Eastern Oregon and vind a high vantage point and no matter how high up you are you don’t get to see the curve. Distance always seems to be the same.

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2. SortingHat February 23, 2017 at 9:28 pm Reply

Wouldn’t it be weird if modern science is bull shitting us just to keep the global elites in power? The bible might have real truths hidden in it and the global elites are working super hard to push the bible away so we cannot ever know or prove ‘nuthin’.

In Canada some parts of it carrying a bible in public is a court offense but NOT the Koran.

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3. Landon November 22, 2017 at 7:01 pm Reply

Guys, you need a minimum of a 35000 metre height (~115000 feet) in order to see a slight curvature. In addition, it seems that people forget about calculus! If you zoom in close enough to a curve, it will actually end up almost straight. Ever wonder how people determine the slope and length of a curve? With this principle. The Earth is so large and we are so small that it appears straight to us.
Aside from the actual visual aspect of it, if we consider a planar Earth, that would nullify modern physics. Long-distance snipers have to take the curvature of the Earth into consideration when making an incredibly long shot. There’s also the fact that objects disappear behind the horizon at enough distance. A planar Earth would not cause this to happen.
Now, looking at the “level ocean” theory above…wouldn’t all the water spill off the Earth if it were a disc?
All of these “Top Tens” are indeed deniable.

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• poolman November 24, 2017 at 12:04 am Reply

Landon, have you actually looked into what that curvature should be based on what size science says our earth is? They claim .666 feet per mile squared.

Where you can see for many, many miles left to right like at the ocean, where is that curvature?

Or since it’s 2017 and we’ve been to space multiple times, maybe just link me to the satellite with that real time earth cam…

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• David March 16, 2018 at 4:01 am

Because your eyes, as a vantage point, have a height above the surface of the earth. If you were lying flat on the ground, you’d be able to see significantly less. Which is why, if you’re on the beach and watch the sunset, then run up a set of stairs quickly – not even a high-speed elevator, you can get another glimpse of the sun because you increased your vantage point height from the surface.

Furthermore, that rate wouldn’t be linear – think about it. On a ball, the curve is insignificant to the plane on small distances and, for a basketball, would result in maybe 0.1 inches drop for 1 inch from the surface, but 4 inches over and you would have dropped 3 or so inches.

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poolman,

I’m not sure your claim is clear on the distances involved: How many miles are in the so-called “many, many miles”, and how much curvature is not seen as a result
of that distance?

Thx

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5. Holly November 24, 2017 at 7:30 pm Reply

(looks around)

This looks like a good place to start.

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6. poolman November 24, 2017 at 8:00 pm Reply

It matters not how many multiple miles one sees at the horizon. My claim is you should see curvature, if water actually clings to a ball. It would be evident at ANY scale. However, water proves to be always flat and level in its resting state.

That evidence alone contradicts the spinning globe theory presented us from birth as fact.

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Thanks for the additional information.If I understand what you’ve said, a globe earth with circumference of any size (e.g.100-1,000,000 miles), would, by decree, have a visible curve. There is no need to consider globe size as you’ve claimed.

I hope I’m correctly using your claim to offer specific examples to confirm I understand .

Thx

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• poolman November 24, 2017 at 11:37 pm

So then, you have no evidence for any curvature to provide.

Because there is none, as you probably know. You and FYA have an awful lot in common when it comes to your criticism, deflection, and lack of supporting proofs.

Globe size? There is no globe. You’ve provided ZERO evidence for one.

If there were curvature it would be present in every example of water larger than the molecular scale. Instead, the molecules at the surface line up side by side and perfectly flat until interrupted or where touching another surface.

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• EvidencePlease November 25, 2017 at 12:07 am

poolman,

Criticize? I don’t get where you’re coming from. I’ve not even been disrespectful, much less using criticism.

I’m not making or trying to make any claims; all I’m trying to do is understand yours. In my mind, using numbers helps me clarify the nature of something; nothing more. I have no evidence to provide, as I’ve not made any claims.

I suppose you don’t need to help others understand your claims; I’m OK disregarding them as not being specific enough to provide me with meaning.

Oh, I just saw your “globe size” comment, and I’m sorry if my intent and language wasn’t clear. When you used “should be” and curvature earlier, I was using that part as the reference point to mention curvature, and I used globe instead of science as you did.

Thx again.

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• poolman November 25, 2017 at 1:27 am

You were critical of my ‘many,many miles’ statement, claiming distances needed to be clearer to be considered. I countered that statement with distance isn’t important and asked you to provide proof of the alleged curvature. So far you have avoided providing any proof for consideration.

You claim to be more comfortable using numbers to clarify the nature of something. Though I don’t think numbers are inherently natural, I will welcome the use of any in your evidence of curvature. I suggested a curve of .666′ per mile squared based on the current math science has provided. Do you disagree with the modern scientific calculations?

Use numbers or visuals, your choice.
There is NO curvature to the earth is my point.
Distance is moot.

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• EvidencePlease November 25, 2017 at 5:17 am

poolman, my apologies for a longer response. You’ve made a number of [comments] that I want to address as a whole, and it will take a bit to include comments for context, followed by individual replies.
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[You were critical of my ‘many,many miles’ statement, claiming distances needed to be clearer to be considered.]

I contend this is false; please quote my words as evidence that I ever mentioned “clearer” or “considered” (reasonable synonyms for these terms apply, of course).
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[I countered that statement with distance isn’t important and asked you to provide proof of the alleged curvature. So far you have avoided providing any proof for consideration.]

I haven’t ever claimed curvature as true or false; I therefore have no responsibility to provide any justification on this question for either position or claim.
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[You claim to be more comfortable using numbers to clarify the nature of something.]

Absolutely true; this was in the context of my example of obviously small and large values, and was an attempt to get clarification of your words “where you can see for many, many miles”, in an attempt to understand your thoughts. You have had several chances to let us know what this means, without a reply. I submit this is a clear case of deflection, lack of supporting information, and perhaps even disrespect.

Do you think we can’t tell there would be a significant difference of seeing 3 miles vs.100 miles across the horizon?
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[Though I don’t think numbers are inherently natural, I will welcome the use of any in your evidence of curvature. I suggested a curve of .666′ per mile squared based on the current math science has provided.]

That’s oddly humorous, as the earliest numbers taught in my classes were the natural numbers (counting numbers). Anyways, based on the formula you include above, perhaps you would consider using this as evidence as to what can or cannot be seen using your original scenario:
“Where you can see for many, many miles left to right like at the ocean, where is that curvature?”.

The question I’m trying to understand is how may miles does to take to “not see that curvature”; which is another way of stating your claim (please correct me if that is in error).
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If you decide that you decline to explain your words, I’ll understand and I’ll decline to reply. After all, as my teachers always told me: “if you don’t show your work, you don’t get the credit”.

Thx

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• poolman November 25, 2017 at 3:58 pm

“please quote my words as evidence that I ever mentioned “clearer” or “considered” (reasonable synonyms for these terms apply, of course).” – EP

‘Clearer’ meaning clarification. You make that connection later in your statement:

“…was an attempt to get clarification of your words…” – EP

‘Considered’ is the framework you establish with your questions, “How many miles” and, “how much curvature is not seen as a result of that distance”

“I’m not sure your claim is clear on the distances involved. How many miles are in the so-called “many, many miles”, and how much curvature is not seen as a result
of that distance?” – EP

So, in an attempt to understand your meaning, let me ask: You aren’t sure about the distance implied or the words used? Many and mile are common words people fluent in English understand. Many constitutes more than a few. Mile is an actual linear distance that can be measured.

The viewing distance isn’t critical. That wasn’t the point. The point is that there is NO CURVATURE EVIDENT at any distance or scale. I have made my observations and have done my own research. My conclusion is consistent with other civilizations that have existed over the millennia upon this earth plane.

“I haven’t ever claimed curvature as true or false; I therefore have no responsibility to provide any justification on this question for either position or claim.” – EP

Aha. The old fence straddle. I asked you if you agree with science’s theory and their claim of the earth being a globe with the dimensions (numbers) they provide describing it. With this claim, you are saying you just don’t know and haven’t done any of your own research.

So, I have explained my words and now you have homework. Get off that fence and do some discovery! 🙂

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7. Johnny May 12, 2018 at 6:50 pm Reply

This is very interesting⬆️

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• poolman May 13, 2018 at 8:45 pm Reply

Interesting to me is how dribble like that passes for science nowadays.

Applying external pressure (force) to compress any material in no way explains a sucking sticking pulling force. The outer surface of any solid material when compressed becomes denser than that of its inner parts. We know from experience the earth gets harder and denser the deeper we penetrate it. 8 miles is the deepest we have been able to drill. Shouldn’t it get easier the closer we get to the source of the pull? Doesn’t make sense. Besides, most of our earth’s surface is water. How does that act when similarly compressed? 🙂

Gravity isn’t real, but is the only glue that holds their cosmological theories together.

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• d taylor May 14, 2018 at 8:26 pm Reply

It looks like the make believe scientist, are running out of balderdash. I do, really wonder where they will eventually take this, if the general population keeps their head in the sand as they are currently doing. Really where can technology go, there is no outer space to travel in and explore. So all this made up technology used to send the men and rockets into made up outer space is just that, lies. The creation of the computer and what it has allowed has keep the general population satisfied for now. But when 10,20 years from now technology begins to not be as satisfying. And people are not zooming to the moon in their own personal rockets will they began to wake up.

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8. Gabriel March 15, 2021 at 9:56 pm Reply

Guys, come on. Im catholic and all, but are you saying were floating through space on a dinner plate? I’ve flown around the world, and you can see the curve, and you end up where you start off without a weird ice wall. Also, on a map longitude and latitude are curved, if they weren’t actually curved and you tried to do calculations, you wouldn’t end up at the correct position. The Earth is round, WAKE UP. Also then our physics wouldn’t work, and THEY DO.

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