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The Cavendish Experiment — Pseudoscience Nonsense
Don’t be surprised if at some point an indoctrinated globehead pulls out the Cavendish experiment as proof of gravity and tries to shove it in your face. Fear not, the Cavendish experiment is another pseudoscience piece of nonsense that has never been replicated and is taken as truth in the fraudulent world of scientism. In essence, the Cavendish experiment was initiated in 1797 by Henry Cavendish that supposedly can measure the gravitational attraction of two massive bodies. From there the legend grew to measuring the mass of the earth, moon and planetary bodies. There’s only one problem, it has never been replicated and is full of more holes than a piece of swiss cheese, but yet it’s still used today as a if it were science fact.
Here’s an article by Scientific American stating that the Cavendish Experiment is the basis of measuring planetary weight. How do scientists measure or calculate the weight of a planet? Here’s a quote;
Because we know the radius of the Earth, we can use the Law of Universal Gravitation to calculate the mass of the Earth in terms of the gravitational force on an object (its weight) at the Earth’s surface, using the radius of the Earth as the distance. We also need the Constant of Proportionality in the Law of Universal Gravitation, G. This value was experimentally determined by Henry Cavendish in the 18th century to be the extremely small force of 6.67 x 10-11 Newtons between two objects weighing one kilogram each and separated by one meter. Cavendish determined this constant by accurately measuring the horizontal force between metal spheres in an experiment sometimes referred to as “weighing the earth.”
But yet here’s an article called: Easy to show Cavendish Experiment is a fake #151 New Physics #260 ATOM TOTALITY 5th ed that totally destroys the Cavendish experiment and says;
Every one can witness, that no matter how large and massive of two balls, of steel you make and place them close together, that there never, ever was a perceptible attraction by Newtonian gravity of one for the other. But everyone can build the tiniest of bar magnets and notice that as you bring the two closer together, that the snap at one another in attraction.
Also, the asteroid Ida and its moon Dactyl. Anyone doing the Cavendish Experiment and believing it, should look at the asteroid belt, that all the asteroids should have moons based on Cavendish Experiment, but the fact is, that gravitational bonding is a rare phenomenon, because, well, gravity is not Newtonian and that gravity is EM-gravity.
So the Cavendish Experiment is a fairy tale experiment, and not physics. Physicists should be ashamed of that experiment, not proud.
This is just another example of pseudoscience nonsense that has been intentionally passed along as fact, when in reality it’s complete Bullcrap. Trust your senses not mathematical formulas that try to explain away your own senses and perceptions.
it would be nice to have this article a bit more verbose and perhaps more rigorous. I don’t think it would convince many re’rs.
Cordially,
otis
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No it doesn’t, especially when there are blatant lies and misinformation in it. The article claims the Cavendish experiment has never been repeated. That’s a bunch of crap. First of all, an experiment that isn’t reproducible is useless, and physicists wouldn’t point to it in that case. Secondly, and more importantly, I’ve done the experiment myself.
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Oh really Alex, you may want to post your observations to be credible. Sounds like you got that good ole Defense-Contractor Religion, to me … just sayin.
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Any experiment that cannot be repeated is not science. Plain and simple. There’s so much pseudoscience out there that is passed off as actual science, it’s ridiculous. In order for anything to be deemed scientific it must meet specific criteria. It must be able to be measured, observed, tested, an experiment conducted and the results must be repeatable. End of story.
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The link you posted on the Cavendish experiment is this
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-do-scientists-measure/
It does nothing to destroy the Cavendish experiment. Wrong link?
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This experiment is recreated by just about every uni physics lab every year (at least where i come from). It has not only been repeated but it has been refined in many ways to give even better results. There are of course several other ways to now also define the force or G. As i know this will come as surprise but techniques and technology have progressed a bit in the last 220 years. Try searching google scholar for “determining gravity constant”. It is a good place to start.
What logic do you use to think that this experiment that was managed by a guy in 1797 couldn’t be replicated today 220 years later in a state of the art physics lab?
I found it amusing that the link you put in as one of the supportive proofs of Cavednish being wrong does not appear to work. And although it was pointed out to you in a comment 8 months ago still appears to be incorrect? :o)
The Yt video is a joke: As although it correctly states that mass attracts mass that in itself is not a quantified term. It is the amount of mass that makes the difference. The amount of force generated is completely reliant and proportional to the mass weight of the object. And why did he keep comparing he Cavendish experiment to satellites/meteors etc? One concerns a static weight the other he is comparing it with are in motion – completely different ball game and basically irrelevant. Meteors themselves are in a gravitational orbit themselves around a central object lol ..
Two completely different variables. But then we do know how pseudoscience likes to compare totally non comparable things and then scoff when they don’t gt similar results. And to answer his question – no, it does not matter what material the masses are made of.
The fact we have magnets can’t even remotely be considered as proof that gravity does not exist, One has little to do with the other. Totally different dynamic forces at work.
I do wonder if this comment gets published. It would speak volumes if it did not.
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Seriously! Are you even aware the top Astrophysicist for fake NASA, as recently as last year, claimed they had “no idea what gravity really is”. So why doesn’t the Moon ‘fall’ into Earth? Show me how gravity can move the oceans but cannot stop a butterfly, or cloud, or smoke stack exhaust going this way and that? Or how astronots can space walk above the Karmin line (60 miles up), yet the Moons gravity, 1/6th the power of Earth’s gravity, can move our might oceans up and down twice each day, while increasing gravity on the backside of the 23.5 tilt??? WTF up dude, if you want. Otherwise move on plz, your arguments are illogical, unsound and attacking those of us with brains to think for ourselves don’t need to waste our time with such nonsensical commentary nor be ridiculed because your programming has been complete.
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Not knowing what gravity really is at its most finite or microscopic does not equate to – not understanding its function, how to measure it, and then apply those measurements to other objects. Gravity is intrinsically linked to the amount of mass weight of an object. It would be the same logic to suggest that because we do not (yet) understand how bone cancer works enough to make a cure we should call in to serious doubt the shape of bones and which ones connect to which in our body lol oh and forget that we can see the shape of the bones with x rays – there are all part of a conspiracy.
Oceans/Butterflies. The amount of Gravitational force is and has always been completely proportional to the mass of an object. so i shall ask you simple question. How big in mass do you think the words oceans combined is compared to a butterfly? – and there is your answer. Every time you step on set of bathroom scales you the scales are there in between you and the earth – measuring the difference between your body mass and the pull of the earth. If you have rival hypothesis as to what is going on there then by all means set up an experiment to give results to help support that rival hypothesis.
And as far as the stupid “Cavendish experiment has never been recreated” – you can literally buy ready to go Cavendish kits for universities lol. here is one > https://www.pasco.com/prodCatalog/EX/EX-5550_universal-gravitational-constant-experiment/index.cfm
I am not even sure what you meant by increasing gravity on the backside of the tilt means. And the tides are in perfect sinc with the movement of the moon and sun, although the shape of land masses does influence the exact flow in and out of some areas. The words tides a re little more than quite low long wave travelling around the earth.
How much mass do you think make has? And you understand even the basics of physics so poorly that you don’t appear to get that gravity acts differently on the states of matter (solid, liquid, gas).
No idea what your issue is with spacewalks/Karman line. as you did not explain the problem.
I do have to make a correction though, a couple of the things i raised in relation to the yt vid were in fact from another video. The video in this blog does make several of the same mistakes though (including others which if you really want me to tear it apart i shall add if you wish). The assertion that the Grav constant experiment has never been recreated is beyond silly and shows you have likely never been anywhere near a physics lab in your life.
Tell you what , you are conspiracy theorist.. what about this for an idea for an article. Why not do a blog on the achievements of conspiracy theorist’s. You know how many legitimate conspiracies they have uncovered, discoveries that have progressed mankind, any inventions built etc. That would make a really good read i think. There is really only one thing that they have ever been any good at, and that is generating money for themselves by selling rubbish to folk because they have identified a market. So, no self interest there then. Dubay? ever done an experiment in his life? nope.. hates CGI.. yes. yet oddly all his vids rely almost entirely on CGI to get his message across. And because most of the stuff he tells you does not actually occur in reality. He’s having great fun though selling interviews, books and YT advertising whilst living in what is essentially a tax haven.
Want to think for yourself? go and join your local amateur ham radio club and they will show you how to carry out something called EME off the moon. The sdie effect of which will be that it verifies the exact distance to the moon, which really strangely is damn near exactly the same as was worked out by parallax 2000 years.
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I really did not expect to learn anything here. Thanks for the links. This website is kind of crazy. Didn’t know people actually think the earth is flat, thought it was a joke
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Organised crime is a criminal conspiracy. Elliot Ness was a conspiracy theorist who brought down Al Capone. I’d rate that as an accomplishment by a conspiracy theorist.
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This experiment is performed by physics undergraduates and even high school students. Equipment can be purchased online for under $1,000 – or even made at home (as Cavendish did).
I have performed this experiment myself multiple times – and no Flat Earther has ever come up with a rational explanation why this isnt measuring the effect of gravity.
The experiment successfully demonstrates that gravity exists, and that the force is very weak (which debunks many of the FE arguments (“If the earth is round the why doesnt X happen” e.g. pouring water on a lemon and showing that it falls off ).
Either do the experiment for yourself – or go watch some students do it at your local physics department.
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Wow the amount of globular earth theorist doing damage control in the comments is astonishing, nothing passes the level of triggering that GEs get when their gospel is under attack
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Wow the amount of flat earth theorist doing damage control in the comments is astonishing, nothing passes the level of triggering that FEs get when their ignorance is under attack.n
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Your comments are outdated nonsense! You state that there are no asteroids with moons, and that gravity should have provided them. Well, guess what? Most asteroids have moons! Ha ha ha. Heehehehee!
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All of those students “replicating” this experiment, have no idea how to qualify and express data, thats how they get to accept this experiment as valid, and how these establishments justify and get paid for teaching it as science. Its not a valid experiment – sorry, it’s just bad science. Cavendish who was a great thinker and experimenter can be forgive for thinking he was on to something, it was 1797 after all, however, the criteria for his experiment, and the experiment itself, would not withstand contemporary scientific scrutiny. I’m not arguing against gravity and its attractive phenomena, I’m simply saying that Cavendish did bad science, and anyone trying to replicate his experiment, is also doing bad science. If you want to argue in favor or against gravity, then you should take a more contemporary approach to this problem. Those arguing for Cavendish are looking as foolish as those arguing against Cavendish, Cavendish simply opened a dialogue, he satisfied no criteria and proved nothing, except that this is not the way to conduct this experiment. Its a foolish argument based on bad science. kudos to Cavendish for his thinking and effort, but not for his hypotheses and his evaluation of his data.
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Defense-Contractor clergy (murder, wars, etc.) employ alter-boys to promote their Cavendish balls. Pretty wretched to here clergy preaching assumptions that are nonsensical and tend toward darwinistic murders. I’ve heard many D-C clergyman scream heretic and worship R and balls. My 6-mile lake is flat, per Nikon p900/p1000 observations.
The Inverse Square Law precludes lights from more than a few thousand miles away.
God created us and can SAVE us through JESUS.
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If the Cavendish experiment is a fake, and can’t be replicated, that means that gravity does not exist. Is this what you were saying? If so, then I ask you to prove or at least apply some evidence, that gravity does not exist. I’ll be waiting.
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If something does not exist can it then be proven to not exist. can you prove that santa claus does not exist, he even has his name in the dictionary.
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Santa%20Claus
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Gravity does exist in the minds of the deceived, just like Santa.
But, I would ask those who believe in the force of gravity; how much tax-payers money are ‘scientists’ currently spending trying to prove the unprovable? The amount of money spent thus far must be truly mind-boggling!
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Obviously, you’re not an astronomer – I am – and I also know much about optics, particularly those in telescopes. I can demonstrate the moon’s distance in several ways. I would have to ask one question, that is, why you feel so deceived by mainstream science in the first place? Are you prone to general paranoia by any chance? Do you have proofs for your statements regarding the moon’s distance, for instance?
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what a lot of the so called photos from the iss take advantage of. Is the effect of how when a person is on the ground looking up at a high place ,example a diving high board. From the ground the height does not look that high, but when you are standing on the high board looking down the height really looks much higher than you perception from the ground of that height.
That is with these photos taken from supposedly from the iss, that look so high. I bet if you could see the balloon or what ever object is taking the photos, from the ground they would not be that high maybe 20,25 miles high. Clouds are around 3,4,5 miles high.
It was like looking at the moon this morning, the moon was straight over head around 5:30- 6:00 a.m. and i just do not see how a person can not clearly see that the moon is not far away this morning it could not have been over 300 miles up/away.
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Not all things are subject to being proved, or disproved. This is the very essence of pseudoscience, and it’s irrational claims.
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It is not gravity that does not exist, but how it functioons, how it works, that is mislead. Yes, things move downward when they are more dense than their surrounding material. Things move upwards when they are lighter than the substance in which they are immersed. There is a third thing they know about gravity, and that is the rate of acceleration through air or a vacuum. Mass on mass, space/time bending pure sci-fi nonsense.
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Things move upward only within a fluid medium that’s enclosed. The perimeter supplies the pressure allowing movement otherwise it wouldn’t happen. Why can’t this bs experiment be used w a liquid? Orb even a contained liquid. You can drop to items in a vacuum and the heavier item will hit the ground first.
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My general feeling, is that, this sort of conspiracy type thinking is fun for you, and quells some sort deep-seated resentment, and emptiness within. It is not possible for the global community of scientists – or any other group of people for that matter – to maintain an ongoing deception of this sort. You’re talking about people, and people. If something like this were true, someone, eventually, would have supplied direct and absolute proof of the statements you’ve made. Where are they?
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My general feeling is that you’re so invested in an incorrect model of our reality that you will do and say literally anything in order to keep projecting the illusion. You have only ever seen lights in the sky, have you not? Or have you, yourself been to another galaxy that is assumed to be a physical place? That’s what I thought. Science these days, including astronomy are a religious dogma of believing in things you cant see, test, prove, and repeat.
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Also of concern, is your spread of misinformation to the young students in this country. You have no business warping their perspectives, or their emotions.
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Also of concern, is your spread of misinformation to the young students in this country. You have no business warping their perspectives, or their emotions.
I believe that the spread of misinformation, with the intent of deception, by yourself, should be a criminal act and punishable by imprisonment.
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‘Science Guy’?
You are more like a totalitarian extremist!
Your views are simply shocking, they absolutely beggar belief! Are we not allowed to think for ourselves?
WHO is the one “warping their perspectives, or their emotions.”?
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Most people cannot think rationally, for themselves, when they are the type who are easily persuaded by fiction. There are things in this world, whose reality, is not subject to, having faith, that they exist, or, exist, simply out of a desire for them to exist; extraterrestrial visitation is a good example. Claims require evidence.
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Emotions. Therein, lies your problem.
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It seems to me, that, you are not among the population I’m referring to, here. You may be capable of discernment, and unaffected; but that would place you in a minority.
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If i had the money i would by every young person a p1000 and open their eyes up to the lies. So they can see for themselves that a star is not a sun trillion, billion, etc.. light years away and that they are a (all that i have seen) are seven sided light creations and they are right above us to give light on the earth.
I love how with the manual focus, the differences in distance can be easily observed/seen in how a closer star ( the brighter ones) requires, less zoom and focus to get an in-focus recording. How a star farther away (the dimer ones) take the focus gauge closer to the infinity symbol with the zone close to out.
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Yeah the Flat Earthers P1000 camera of choice to prove there is no globe just a flat plain. Funny how that little camera can open their eyes to all the lies by science but actually looking through some really nice optics like large telescope is never used by the non science crew…
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How interesting! When did you first get interested in this kind of photography?
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D taylor: I’m guessing that, you’re either too young, or too naive to have learned much about the entertainment industry. So be it. A little wisdom will, someday, come your way as well.
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Colmford
I’m guessing that, you’re either too young, or too naive to have learned much about the entertainment industry. So be it. A little wisdom will, someday, come your way as well.
Sorry, D Taylor.
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¥ YouTube ID = Ricky Suttle
…— Newtonian gravity is still lauded as some brilliant discovery. Well it doesn’t work — we know it doesn’t. Einsteinian gravity is what is mainly used, although when that doesn’t work, they use Newtonian interchangeably, or they mess with the numbers. Then you get to galactic gravitation & that’s where they’re 10 to the 120 out. It’s incredible how wrong they were, but no one said “maybe gravity is wrong.” They just decided there was something that’s unmeasurable & invisible & controls everything, namely dark energy & dark matter. It’s really backwards in scientific terms. They should be looking into all manner of other possibilities, just in case. But if it turns out gravity is wrong, almost every scientist of the last 100 yrs will have written books & done lectures & filled their heads w/ nothing more than a fallacy — fallacious books. Whole labs would go. Professors would have nothing to teach. So expecting them to admit gravity isn’t real is silly. Even if some of them did know, they wouldn’t say. If they did try to say, they’d never get a peer-reviewed paper, & get mocked out of the community.
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¥ YouTube ID = Jonathan Gems
— I’m sure you know this, but on page 266 of ‘The Metaphysical Foundations of Modern Science’ published by Humanities Press in 1980, a letter by Isaac Newton to Bentley, written after Newton’s Principaea was published, is quoted, in which Isaac Newton refutes the theory of gravity. “It is inconceivable that inanimate brute matter…operate upon, and affect other matter without mutual contact, as it must do if gravitation, in the sense of Epicurus, be essential and inherent in it. And this is why I desired you would not ascribe innate gravity to me.” Newton was a great, if not the first, modern scientist, and he disavowed the theory of gravity. Despite this, because of the authority won by his genius, it was falsely ascribed to him, in order to convince others.
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So one bad experiment is then replicated by schools across the world as evidence of G
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